Microsoft Volume Licensing - who?

[dave.81]

Our's is up for renewal and just wondering which resellers you guys use? We have been using TME for the past couple of years but would like to know who else peeps use just to compare.

[Face-Man]

We have used Pugh but get a comparision quote from Ramsys....

[Linfit]

We have used Pugh Computers for the last three years. They have been competitive for us on price and are very helpful with explaining some of the intricacies of the licensing, sending out media sets etc. Having said that we will probably opt into our local CLC's licensing scheme at the next renewal as they get better value with the larger volumes. (Several secondary schools in the scheme).

 

Might be worth checking if your LA has a VL scheme you could join in with -ours had one for years that would have saved us loads, they just never bothered telling us about it !

[Simcfc73]

I took the decision to go with Probrand/IT Index due to price.

 

Good points

 

I saved a few hundred quid.

 

Bad points

 

They don't seem to know much about the licensing when I ask questions or they take days to answer. Not too bothered at present as I can't see us getting anything else at present but they did mess up a M$ quote a while back which cost me lots of man hours.

 

Pugh was more expensive and Ramesys didn't answer my emails or phone me back when I asked them to so they lost out.

[MkII]

Ramesys beat our LA on price. Pugh have been great in the past but are dearer than our LA.

 

ProBrand wanted us to jump through hoops plus didn't seem to know what they were on about, plus they were dearer than our LA.

[timbo343]

I went to Insight. Ive got a license guy's number if anyone wants it. He gave us a new way of doing the licenses and made everything a hell of a lot cheaper. By about £2000.

[Simcfc73]

I did quite a bit of hoop jumping to get it sorted, I will be changing as soon as I can as I've had enough of Probrand.

[localzuk]

We stuck with TME ourselves for licensing, found their prices cheaper than anyone else we spoke to.

[timbo343]

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

[localzuk]

What numbers of each?

[Gatt]

We stuck with TME ourselves for licensing, found their prices cheaper than anyone else we spoke to.

 

For a split second I thought you said TIME 8O

[john]

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

Wow those are nice prices Tim, very nice prices!

[kestrel1]

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

 

Yes they are nice prices, where did you get them from?

Last time I saw prices like that, the lorry had just turned the corner. lol

[john]

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

 

Yes they are nice prices, where did you get them from?

Last time I saw prices like that, the lorry had just turned the corner. lol

He got them from Insight (his post further up the thread)

[Simcfc73]

Is that volume licensing or buying the licenses outright?

 

We buy our schools agreement and pay

 

MS desktop licenses for £25.30ea

MS Server license for £19.30

Encarta £2.29ea

MS SQL £218.26

MS Exchange £27.56

 

No Cals needed.

[kestrel1]

oops, missed that one. Trying to move away from MS as much as possible these days. There will still be some licences required obviously, so maybe I will take a look at Insight.

[localzuk]

With TME we paid:

 

Windows: 10.52ea

Office Ent: 14.13ea

Windows CALs: 1.23ea

Encarta Ref: 2.55ea

Server: 22.06ea

ISA: 56.42ea

 

For 183 clients, 5 servers and 1 ISA. This was better than any other price we were given too.

[timbo343]

What numbers of each?

 

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

 

Windows Server CALs = 387

Exchange CALs = 387

Office enterprise = 387

Server OS = 10

Exchange server = 1

SQL Server = 1

ISA = 1

[timbo343]

What numbers of each?

 

We bought Windows Server CALs at £1.06 each; Exchange CALs at £1.10 each; Office enterprise at £12.23 each, Server OS at £19.10 each; Exchange server at £26.32 each, SQL Server at £216.08 each; ISA at £48.85 each.

 

Windows Server CALs = 387

Exchange CALs = 387

Office enterprise = 387

Server OS = 10

Exchange server = 1

SQL Server = 1

ISA = 1

[localzuk]

Ah, thats double our numbers, so I would expect lower prices.

[ICTNUT]

@timbo: Are purchasing these licences outright or are you leasing them??

 

We lease ours under a schools agreement and last year paid £8k for coverage of 450 desktops / laptops (XP, Office 2003), 8 Windows Servers (2003 R2), SQL Server, Exchange Server, and CALS to access these along with TS CALS (150).

 

We have over 600 desktops in total but the others are covered under OEM licences.

[timbo343]

we are leasing them, i think. We have to keep buying them every year, so the license cost goes up as more and more machines join our network.

[dave.81]

Thanks for all the ideas peeps i'll get on and speak to a few see how i get on

[localzuk]

@timbo: Are purchasing these licences outright or are you leasing them??

 

We lease ours under a schools agreement and last year paid £8k for coverage of 450 desktops / laptops (XP, Office 2003), 8 Windows Servers (2003 R2), SQL Server, Exchange Server, and CALS to access these along with TS CALS (150).

 

We have over 600 desktops in total but the others are covered under OEM licences.

 

From what I've been told by our suppliers and confirmed by a Microsoft Rep, you are not licensing correctly. To use a schools agreement, you have to buy licenses for all desktops that are used in the school. All your desktops must be licensed by OEM as the schools agreement requires a valid windows license of some form for each machine before it can be used on machines.

[kestrel1]

We don't use the schools agreement here, we buy licences as required. The only thing we have to pay out for each year is our subscription advantage for Citrix, normally around £2,500 & server support contract.