Gatt Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Not really sure this is going to go down well BBC News - Ban packed lunches, head teachers urged
Paul_L Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I know some primary schools round us that long ago stopped providing/serving school dinners and had their kitchens taken out and all the school now bring packed lunchs, what are they going to do!
localzuk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 You can't exactly 'ban' packed lunches - there's no grounds to do this legally. Not to mention, the nutritional value of school meals is still questionable in many schools. Packed lunches have been fine for kids for decades, why would they need to change now?
Jamoire Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I know some primary schools round us that long ago stopped providing/serving school dinners and had their kitchens taken out and all the school now bring packed lunchs, what are they going to do! A number of the primary schools around here 'buy in' there hot lunches so its all prepared offsite and delivered to school.
sparkeh Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I know some primary schools round us that long ago stopped providing/serving school dinners and had their kitchens taken out and all the school now bring packed lunchs, what are they going to do! BBQ time! To be honest I wouldn't let my kid have hot dinners, I have seen how much is actually spent on them! Responsible parents will send their children with healthier packed lunches than the school will provide so why penalise them?
Gatt Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 We send our son in with a packed lunch - partly so we know he has at least had something to eat - he's still at that age where he's very picky with food and we're working on getting him to eat more stuff (from what we can tell - this is normal for most kids, especially boys) If we relied on school meals, he'd eat virtually nothing - the meal choices are shocking as are the quality of the meals. We are relatively healthy with what we send him in with - but since he still wont have a bar of any fruit or veg yet, its difficult!
penfold Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 BBQ time! To be honest I wouldn't let my kid have hot dinners, I have seen how much is actually spent on them! Responsible parents will send their children with healthier packed lunches than the school will provide so why penalise them? And this is why it's such a stupid idea....I was going to go off on a bit of a rant, but I find the idea so stupid I'm not even going to bother. I still can't see why government is trying to get the parenting done by anyone but parents.
victory2012 Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The school dinners are awful.. i mean they are full plates of dinner way too much food, what evere happened to a sandwich i took them at school and i was fine...
sted Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 A number of the primary schools around here 'buy in' there hot lunches so its all prepared offsite and delivered to school. when i was at primary school the dinners were cooked at the high school in the next village and carted over so its nowt new
korifugi Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) I still can't see why government is trying to get the parenting done by anyone but parents. This. The government should back off and let people actually make people look after their own kids - rather than spoon-feeding them everything. No wonder there's a decline in respect for parents/authorities. This is just another step towards making it easier for the benefit crowd to have more kids and less responsability, furthering the decline of this great nation. Banning packed lunches is forcibly taking another element of control from parents, not just the irresponsible ones that don't care if their kids eat, but also the vast number of responsible parents that actually look what they're giving their kids. bloody idiocy - I'll stop now before I go too far... Edited July 12, 2013 by korifugi annoyed enough for spelling to desert me
timbo343 Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 School meals.. ha... i would rather bring in a packed lunch, even now... I think this actually boils down to money. How much is a meal in your school and what do you get? For an adult, the sizes are the same as the students which to be honest, aren't exactly massive, it is more like a snack. I can see both sides of the coin here and as im not a parent however i probably would like to send my kid into school with a meal so i know that i have sent them to school with a healthy meal.
creese Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Probably gradually making way for Soylent Green Ltd to take over the catering contract for the whole country.
Gatt Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Banning packed lunches will put hundreds of "Packed Lunch Police" out of work.. These highly trained workers will then struggle to find work and for many they will need to look for an entirely new career...
hardtailstar Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 going by our school dinners id rather have a packed lunch!
Jawloms Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The other thing about it all is that if my son had a school dinner, that would then mean that in the evening the rest of the family were having a dinner whilst he would be having a tea because he's already had a meal that day. It would separate my family.
mats Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 At risk of going off topic - "Ban packed lunches because they're not healthy enough" on the same day as "We're not going to put fags in plain packaging because our mates in the fag industry are worried about their profits. They only kill half their customers after all". I'll leave it there for now.
creese Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Leon Restaurants - Vision "We are fans of naturally low-GI foods so we make our brownies with dark Valrhona chocolate and instead of flour we use ground almonds and instead of ordinary sugar we use fruit sugar. We believe you can have your cake and eat it" So do I, but I use the 'carrot' and not 'the stick'. Teach children to cook in schools, then the next generation will be knowledgeable about food and nutrition and will send their children to school with healthy packed lunches. Keep it off the curriculum and the ignorance will continue. Banning do not educate. Edited July 12, 2013 by creese
Gonk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) BBQ time! To be honest I wouldn't let my kid have hot dinners, I have seen how much is actually spent on them! Responsible parents will send their children with healthier packed lunches than the school will provide so why penalise them? /Rant The honest truth is that some "responsible" parents would give their child the most unhealthy packed lunches. My mum was the head cook in a local primary, the one where all the Doctors and local politicos sent their children. Those kids on packed lunches tended to have the worst diets - Chocolate, Fizzy Drinks etc. A parent told my mother, "Son X is fussy about what he eats. He loves monster munch crisps so we give him two packs for lunch, some biscuits and a bottle of pop". Oh the irony! I'm a da now and I want my daughter to know how important a healthy diet is. By all means she can have some chocolate/fizzy pop if she wants but she'll have it in moderation - i.e. not every day! I don't believe in the "You must not eat sweet/fizzy things" mantra. From my point of view its all about balance. Throw in the mix some exercise and I don't see the problem it all will pretty much balance out. When I was in primary school (a long time ago) we had a set daily menu - a main meal and a pudding. There has been an obsession in trying to offer lots of variety every day and make the experience like a restaurant where you can choose what you want. It doesn't work! Children will choose what they like, not necessarily what is good for them. The waste of food in my mothers school as frightening but she was told she had to keep offering the variety, even though it was never being eaten. There's a lot to be said for going back to a set weekly menu (I recall we had a monthly cycle of different meals), for one it would be more cost effective in terms of the buying and making of the food. Economies of scale in buying food still exist even though LAs pretend that you can buy 1 bag of potatoes at the same price per unit as 10. Waste food0 would also be reduced, saving money. Our LA decided that schools catering had to make a profit. They've decided to make this profit by reducing ingredient quality and time to do the work. The effect of this is that more children are moving to packed lunches as it offers a perceived better diet and more variety. Schools catering should be run as not for profit "business". All it need to do is provide the pupils and staff a good, wholesome meal that meets sensible nutritional standards. AS a result of the packed lunch scenario, the Government now feels that they have to tell schools to ban packed lunches. If they showed some balls and told LAs to make schools catering not for profit and set some minimum standards we wouldn't be in this position of being told what to do by a increasingly Orwellian nanny state! /Rant Edited July 12, 2013 by Gonk Inappropriate singling out of a career
FishCustard Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Leon Restaurants - Vision "We are fans of naturally low-GI foods so we make our brownies with dark Valrhona chocolate and instead of flour we use ground almonds and instead of ordinary sugar we use fruit sugar. How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact?
Gatt Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact? I always thought the major issue with sugar was "Refined" Sugar..? Unless this is what they mean by "Ordinary" sugar
creese Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact? Personally I believe it is the amount of sugar, especially in some fizzy drinks, not so much the type. I am experimenting with Stevia currently.
sparkeh Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The honest truth is that some "responsible" parents would give their child the most unhealthy packed lunches. My mum was the head cook in a local primary, the one where all the Doctors and local politicos sent their children. Those kids on packed lunches tended to have the worst diets - Chocolate, Fizzy Drinks etc. A doctor told my mother, "Son X is fussy about what he eats. He loves monster munch crisps so we give him two packs for lunch, some biscuits and a bottle of pop". Oh the irony! If they are doing that then they are not responsible parents. Their career is irrelevant.
creese Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Michael Gove facing the heat over Marrakech villa holiday with Leon chef he asked to improve school meals | Mail Online The two men discussed over poolside cocktails how to improve school meals for children and, shortly after the vacation, Mr Gove asked the chef to investigate the issue, the Independent on Sunday reported. Now we know what it's all about.
sidewinder Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The other thing about it all is that if my son had a school dinner, that would then mean that in the evening the rest of the family were having a dinner whilst he would be having a tea because he's already had a meal that day. It would separate my family. Why? If the only choice of school dinner is a huge portion of pizza and chips fair enough but if its a sensible sized decent cooked meal why cant you have another cooked meal at dinner? I always eat 2 cooked meals a day in term time granted i am a 29 year old man...
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