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Thanks for the good Advice Im looking at the LGfL website now. How do you install and use the CC Shared Licenses?

Wow shocked at the answers and was shocked at the cost the school is paying. We don't currently have a reseller and in our Adobe Admin it shows VIP as the service and apparently that's because the licenses were provided by a reseller at the time. The firm that we used to turn to have gone bust and they bought the licenses off GreyMatter looking at it. My next renewal is May but if anyone can give me a good supplier it would be appreciated as I also want to purchase some MS licenses from said supplier. If I remember correct the software is installed on the shared laptop as an admin and then students log on and use an account that we have associated with that laptop i.e. AdobeICT1, AdobeICT2.

Hi folks I just found out our school buy 15 Creative Cloud Licenses every year and that costs us £6,012 ex VAT. Does that not seem bonkers considering most kids just use Photoshop. To be fair Photography class said they preferred the older Adobe Photoshop Elements which I think you can still get.

I just tried registering on the chest website but our school is not listed. No idea how that system works to be honest. From what i'm reading its for larger schools. We only have 75 Students across two sites and a 3rd site being built bringing us to roughly 110 students so pretty small.

The above highlighted license is that just for Staff or can you use that for Students as well?

Shows 2 Partners in mine. 1. the Indirect-Reseller that no longer exists but apparently has Global Admin access and then... 2. Westcoast Cloud CSP - Reseller. Both of which were linked as I think Westcoast was the now bust Indirect-Resellers supplier. I Guess i'm in the water for a new reseller? Currently more bothered about the level of access they have. If I bin them off does it remove the license cals we bought from them or are they part of the account at that point?

So I guess I just register on here? https://partner.microsoft.com/en-gb/licensing And what will this do link to our Tenant that we have and allow us to look at pricing direct from M$ rather than through a 3rd party supplier?

Anyone know if there is a faculty/education version of these two all in one products I have seen... Enterprise Mobility + Security E3 includes Azure Active Directory Premium P1, Microsoft Intune, Azure Information Protection P1, Microsoft Advanced Threat Analytics, Azure Rights Management (part of Azure Information Protection) and the Windows Server CAL rights. Enterprise Mobility + Security E5 includes all the capabilities of Enterprise Mobility + Security E3 plus Azure Active Directory Premium (AADP) P2, Azure Information Protection P2, Microsoft Cloud App Security, Azure Active Directory [AD] Identity Protection (as a feature of AADP P2), Azure Advanced Threat Protection, Azure AD Privileged Identity Management (as a feature of AADP P2). If so what do they price at?

Hi, do any of you have it so when a student logs on to a random computer/laptop in school they automatically have the SharePoint site they have access to synced. I am looking at going full cloud but cannot see how people would access a central "Pupils Data" share automatically after logging in. How do you all do it? I looked at Zee Drive but not sure if anyone uses it. Thanks, CC

Great itemizing of the different factors KK20. I will run over them with you as I see them currently. 1: Current system is two sites with a max of 60pupils over the two sites. Both sites have a DC with AD, FS, DNS, DHCP, GPO with no link between or joined AD's (Running separate). One site has 2012 server R2 and is due replacement and the other is running 2019 and is probably 2years old and does nothing all day but wait for a logon request 3-4times a day. 2: Provider has gone down the pan so I will be on the hunt for a reseller who can take it on. The 365 portal I believe is part of their school broadband package with BT Lancs who do the following services for the school... Netsweeper filtering (Currently relies on GPO to push to relevant groups) Broadband line (Standard FTTC so only 50Mbps with 7-8Up) 365 Tenant with Educational A1 licensing. Last batch of MS Office 2021 Licenses were purchased through another provider who no longer exists. Our current filtering solution does not work for us on a cloud basis so I would be looking for a cloud based filter. 3: Aim is to free them of the overhead of a lump sum of money paying out for a new server and merge the two sites under the one cloud system. A third site is also in the picture. Staff are the ones pushing for the ability to login as the email address. 4: Currently no FTTP products are available which is a PITA so the speed will be an issue and a second line for fail-over is something I would be looking for. Ideally BT get their finger out in the next twelve months and get an FTTP product available to us so I can have an FTTC as a fail-over. 5: Shouldn't need to hybrid with the small amount of users they have and they currently run the 365 email system as a separate entity hence why they would like to login using the email address for ease. Onsite shared files is literally just a pupils share which is about 250GB and could move to a SharePoint site. Home drive data would be moved to individuals one drive accounts. Photoshop is a splinter and may need an onsite 4bay Synology just for saving the ART department data back to. 6: Most providers I'm currently looking at offer 365 backups such as Barracuda, PeaSoup, Axcient, Acronis. 7: Printing I believe can be moved to cloud platforms - not looked into those yet but I do know I could manually add the three copiers on an Admin local profile and they will be there on the laptop for the pupils when they logon using Azure. MIS, Itranet, Clocking is all on a separate network not managed by the school. 8: This post is me fishing for info on MDM via InTune and finding out what it can and cannot do. I know currently our GPO's a very locked down such as no right click no control panel and a custom start menu. I'm not fussed on all of that more as long as pupils cannot do any damage by right clicking then I'm fine with it. The test laptop I joined to the O365 azure tenant wasn't able to go deleting files when logged on as a pupil and was not able to perform admistrative action BUT you could go in the MS Store and download whatever you wanted which I don't want. 9: Like i was saying the amount of users here isn't worth the Hybrid and may as well start fresh on the tenant and roll it out bit by bit. 10: Options for this are either a Watchguard or just a Draytek 2862. Probably loads of suggestions you guys could make and the more the better and as always your knowledge is appreciated.

That's great information IT_JB! Those are figures I have no problem telling them to pay for if the cloud is do-able for us.

Our suppliers company shutdown and sold up so i'm picking up the pieces and scoping things out. Hence why I would rather push all logons to use azure and move data to a SharePoint then somehow do the following.. Make it so pupils can roam from laptop to laptop. Restrict access i.e. stops kids doing a "reset" or accessing the MSStore and downloading a VPN etc. Have it also so when they log on Onedrive is automatically logged in and the SharePoint site they have access to is available without manually going to the site and clicking "sync". Anyone know if any of those things are achievable

Now i'm excited JB! How did you come across that information? Are you a reseller or currently running schools and know the price as you pay it? Everything on Google states huge prices and still doesn't tell me if P1 includes InTune or if that is again separate. Is it just me or is licensing a PITA when your in the dark and don't have an MSP to contact.

So the educational "Azure Active Directory for 365" that comes with the educational licensing isn't enough to become serverless and cloud only and you would need to pay the £5.18 per user per month to get the Azure P1? Does that come with InTune for that price or is that still a separate license. That P1 license would cost the school roughly £4500 a year pricing it out. *YIKES*

Wow thats cheap! where is the data stored?

I know the school is only paying £1800 currently for 2years UK based offsite backup so im not sure if Pea soup will be cheaper once ive paid for the software and their costs. They have three site all of which have... site 1: 400GB site 2: 200GB site 3: 0 - currently being built I dont feel we have loads to backup as I keep a trim bush . Does PeaSoup have a price calculator or anyway of calculating costs? Cheers supportman

Is Veeam for backing up VM infrastructure more than raw data. We have a bog standard DC here and just need the data drive backing up so im wondering if PeaSoup is overkill?

Hi Chaplic, thanks for the reply. I had a look over in that location and it just says "No access" and references Intune below which I am pretty sure is something we don't get as part of our free Education A1 subscription. Should it show more than this?

I use Zoho assist for our servers and it is free for basic connecting in needs. I also use the Zoho Desk package as a Helpdesk system.

Hi all new job at a new site and I can see we have the 365 A1 package which is currently supplied to the school by BTLancs. They have a server on prem which I would love nothing more than to get rid of but could use some assistance. I have an Admin capable login for the 365 tenant and can see all the features Azure, SharePoint etc. I have created a SharePoint Teams site called "Pupil Data" as a general data drive for students. I have taken a vanilla Windows 10 laptop and joined it to the azure domain by logging on as a student. At this point it asked the student to make a PIN to get a code on a mobile like 2FA is on. I have typed it in on Google and it says that it is an Intune thing? Not used Intune yet but it looks like an MDM for the site BUT i think it is there but not usable as part of the Students A1 Education licensing. My main questions are... Do you all use InTune with this setup? and is that what I need to knock off the questions about setting a PIN or do you do it differently? Also, I wonder how you can make it so the pupil automatically sync's the SharePoint and is automatically signed into the OneDrive after login as the students move around on different laptops. Any thoughts and suggestions are great!

Just got the same thing while playing about testing a login. Logs in fine when I tether to my phone but through the BTLancs Netsweeper it just goes white after sign on. Looking at the Netsweeper live logs it does not show anything being blocked but 100% is.

Are you guys still using Schoolpod or have you moved on?

I know its an old post but im just looking to see if Arbor proved to be a better MIS system than Schoolpod. We have school pod in our PRU but it takes a while for any changes to get implemented.

Great post and is exactly what I have been thinking of this week as I am sick of worrying about old servers at sites and then keeping up with the migrations. What will you use for a filtering service for those two lines? I ask this as our filter through BT Lancashire uses Netsweeper and is given to machines by group policy based on if they are in the student or staff OU. Ive no idea how we would get around this if we went cloud. My thought on this as I am in a PRU was how do I do the Group Policy side of the server when it goes cloud AD. We cant trust these pupils with the ability to right click delete or change backgrounds etc.

I was just told that to meet GDPR the data must be stored within the UK. Anyone know if this is true?