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I initially thought that wasn't a very good analogy, but it is.... because (and sorry to say this), but there are plenty of people who would take their car to a garage for that... And mixing it with this... ...actually sums it up perfectly! The 'driver' is trained to drive the car (passes test)... The driver is NOT trained to open the bonnet locate the correct reservoir and fill the fluid. Whether or not the person is the type to look in the handbook for the vehicle, work out how to open the bonnet, find out which one is the screen wash, get the appropriate mix for the conditions and fill it up to the required level (the metaphors are hopefully obvious) is down to the individual's confidence, common-sense (and skill level/competence) in doing it and if they even feel the need to take the time to learn about it - especially when there is someone around who can fix it easily (or just by being in the room sometimes and then they can continue to concentrate on just doing the 'driving' part). We may be the type that does it, others are not (that is life in general), I can tell you for a fact if my OH needs this doing it will be me that does it (just as she does when her second monitor doesn't come on, or her mouse doesn't work, or she can't get connected to the internet etc. It will be me that she calls no matter how many times I tell her how to do it). You may argue that the 'driver' should take the time to learn all these things (or at least the basics - no need to train as a 'mechanic'), but as it stands it does not (as far as I know) prevent you from taking the test and driving a car (and yet how long have we been driving cars?)...

Here... http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/225791-looks-like-january-windows-updates-causing-all-sorts-issues.html

You would hope/think so wouldn't you... But I will be totally honest and say that there are teachers here that take their class for IT/Computing lessons and yet struggle with some basic IT tasks. As long as the children can log on to the computer and double click the shortcut, I'm not sure there is much else they need to do and that's the only tech knowledge they need... as far as I'm aware the program takes them through all the steps. By the same token they are taught Primary School level Spanish by teachers that don't speak Spanish, they log on to the resource (with their limited tech skills) and that does the work for the subject matter. I guess then the 'teaching' part is about ensuring the children understand what they're supposed to do and keeping them engaged/learning, not knowing Spanish.

See, there is an opposite problem here that nobody has mentioned... How about the teacher who is very 'tech savvy'... almost as many problems there? Also, I'm not sure many of the younger users who aren't over at least 30 would even know there are versions of a mouse or keyboard that has to be 'plugged in'! EDIT: I was going to post a picture of a 5 pin din, but that's old even for me...

Is anybody using L2TP VPN connections? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-kb5009543-kb5009566-updates-break-l2tp-vpn-connections/ "The bug is not affecting all VPN devices and seems only to be affecting users using the built-in Windows VPN client to make the connection. A security researcher known as Ronny on Twitter told BleepingComputer that the bug affects their Ubiquiti Client-to-Site VPN connections for those using the Windows VPN client. Many Windows admins also report on Reddit that the bug also affects connections to SonicWall, Cisco Meraki, and WatchGuard Firewalls, with the latter's client also affected by the bug."

I don't really think you can do something like a 'drop-in' session for issues that they don't see as an issue...? Probably spent their time better - marking books, updating learning logs, photocopying resources, wondering how to keep little Timmy engaged, or just having a well earned sit down and cuppa in the staff room, etc... I guess that's what really goes round in their mind. I'm sure anything IT related isn't a focus of their job (no matter how crucial to doing the job it might seem) it is secondary. We all know the feeling of being called into a classroom and being asked to get X,Y or Z working as they want to use it in this lesson (or the planning says they have to). Yet, when asked if they have used it before or made sure it all works before the lesson you are met with a blank look... Like "when did I have the time to do that"?

Well, yes... don't get me wrong, to a greater extent I do agree with you (nobody wants updates that grind our systems to a halt) but I'm not sure how every Windows user in the world could get together and hold Bill accountable though to demand better. I still maintain though that I really can't imagine that every update can be tested on every (even basic) configuration, there is always going to be an issue for someone - I mean even if this one is admittedly pretty big, I have got servers that are unaffected and so will a lot of sysadmins. FTFY... This is what we hoped every month about the Print Nightmare updates though! Anyway, it is definitely a DC thing for us I think (managed not to install it on the Virtual Server Host so that's one good thing), my DC has just crashed again so uninstalling the update and taking the flak for the reboot... However, the lowly print server is (with update) still happily chugging away like a trooper (no restarts). EDIT: The unfortunate thing is that I thought I was being very clever installing the updates on my test VMs (just really checking I could still print more than anything else) and was happy that they seemed to work ok. How could I have known that the test VMs also need to be DCs and have a VM themselves to fully test for issues...

Not sure I should even admit this as I'm supposed to be the all knowing IT person (as opposed to those pesky teachers)... But I was a bit stumped for a while trying to find the 'save' or 'save as' option...

Good question, but I'm not sure why you believe people aren't outraged... The other question is what is a large % of the world's infrastructure/business supposed to do about it exactly? Start using Macs...? I'm not sure if MS have ever been quoted as saying 'it just works" though... Apple do have an advantage that a great deal of their ecosphere (technosphere) is run/developed/maintained/controlled by them on their hardware. MS certainly don't have that luxury as a lot of their products are shoehorned into unsuitable systems, run in configurations that are 'not recommended' and pulled apart by all sorts of 'unqualified' users etc. This is NOT a defence of MS as such and yes I agree we are conditioned to expect issues with every update (but it is certainly the last one I will be doing without a good week or so scouring the forums first)...

I have to say I'm not exactly sure where I stand on this one if I'm honest... and therefore I find even my own arguments are fairly rambling and contradictory... But, funny story... I have just dealt with this exact issue today! A student teacher arrived at my office door this morning looking to collect a laptop, she was how shall I put this... ah, yes... a mature student... and pretty much the first line out of her mouth was the 'classic'... 'oh, I'm terrible at computers'.... so, we had a good laugh about that... but she's not stupid, just not very IT literate. Her previous profession was a lawyer, but even then she had never even owned a laptop until recently. She admitted that she'd never used PowerPoint, had to resize A4 on a MFD into booklets or used an Interactive Whiteboard (and depending on the school they went to for experience might never get covered in any of their training). Trying not to be ageist, but learning the skills to be a 'teacher' at all, let alone if you have never had exposure to any of the technology for the greater part of your life must be quite daunting. The other thing is that I suppose depending on the subject or level they are teaching, IT literacy isn't something they need to get the job, it certainly isn't something that's high on the list of things our SLT are looking for when they employ a teacher (although I'm sure they'd be grateful for an ICT subject leader/co-ordinator). The thing is we are Primary level and teachers need to know every subject as they teach a class, not a subject. There is an educational platform for them to use for a lot of it and so for the vast majority of the time they are not teaching from experience of the subject matter but more parrot fashion/paint by numbers, for instance we use Purple Mash to cover the Computing Curriculum (mainly because in our whole faculty we do not have a single teacher who has any great knowledge or even interest in computing). Now, the way I see it 'teaching' is quite a skill (and I do have respect for what they do - I could not and would not do it), has its own subset of skills but (frustrating as it is for us) I'm not going to say they need to include even basic 'ICT' skills to do the job of teaching the children Primary level core subjects. But I would point out that even admin staff here that have been doing the job for years with the technology struggle with change (or a new way of doing the same things) and if it falls outside of what they are used to are quite adverse to it (example being the receptionist who calls me every time she needs to open a particular file as it changed location - so, not how she has done it for the last 10 years). I am not exempt from this myself either (let he who is without sin etc.) there are various systems (take the server OS for example that I could update) that are the way they are because they work well, I know how to use them and changing them for the sake of it will cause me a lot of headaches... I echo some of the sentiments here that at least we do have the aptitude and ability to pick up technology (in whatever form) quite quickly, as we use it all day everyday. Teachers using it occasionally might find a change in platform quite daunting and confusing as they don't. Plus they have a myriad of other concerns, it just isn't their primary focus, it may be a tool to do their job, but it certainly isn't the only tool and possibly not even the main tool. As for saving work and such (or other 'basic' IT skills), even if they use a laptop fairly frequently at home they save their work and close the lid (why would anyone think it would be any different), if they don't or never had, why must we think it would be obvious how to do a 'simple' task... they don't have to navigate to the specific drive mandated by IT and then know that the children must save it somewhere else - be it another drive, Google, OneDrive etc. This will vary by school, depending on the platform each individual school uses, which we know is quite varied... if at the previous school it was Google, Meet, Drive, Docs and at the next MS, Teams, OneDrive, Word (or how about a Mac school) it is quite a shift in workflow.

Yes probably, but you know... DC & SIMS server in the middle of the day... hasn't rebooted since the last one at 09:25 this morning, so it doesn't appear to be in any kind of fatal boot loop or anything. Was hoping it might have had a setting or something that would stop the lsass.exe crashing and restarting the server... Is everybody doing 'wusa /uninstall /kb:5009624 /quiet' and will that avoid a restart? Or go through the 'Installed Updates > Uninstall' in Control Panel and do a restart?

2022-01 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows Server 2012 R2 for x64-based Systems (KB5009624) This is the January Monthly Quality Rollup for 2012R2. KB5009595 is the Security-only update. Some info here (lots of adverts though): https://www.kiratas.com/security-updates-from-january-2022-with-massive-collateral-damage-in-windows-3/ Main info: The process lsass.exe (or wininit.exe) triggers a cyclical restart of the affected Windows server on affected machines because a Access conflict generates the error 0xc0000005. The interval at which these restarts are forced can be up to 15 minutes. At first only Windows Server 2012 R2 in connection with domain controllers was mentioned, but now there are also reports that domain controllers (DC) under Windows Server 2016, 2019 and 2022 are affected. The problem does not occur in all scenarios, the exact conditions that trigger the problem are not yet known.

I've noticed that just before the reboots event viewer records this: Application popup: lsass.exe - Application Error : The instruction at 0xfbb12663 referenced memory at 0x00000058. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program Fairly generic and as usual the internet is therefore leading me down a lot of rabbit holes (a lot of it is quite old info and ends up with suggesting some years old hotfix)... from Virtual Machines, LDAP queries, DNS, changing a user name or permissions,

Well, unfortunately the one DC that I did update was our SIMS server... Being very slow to log in to a remote session and nobody can access SIMS or FMS... Edit: I'm in now but lots of errors to work through and 'Shutdown Event Tracker' has come up asking why it shutdown unexpectedly...? Looking through the event logs it seems to have shutdown at 08:17, 08:28, 09:25 this morning.... so, not exactly boot looping I guess, but....? "A critical system process, C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe, failed with status code c0000005. The machine must now be restarted." "The process wininit.exe has initiated the restart of computer SERVER on behalf of user for the following reason: No title for this reason could be found Reason Code: 0x50006 Shutdown Type: restart Comment: The system process 'C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe' terminated unexpectedly with status code -1073741819. The system will now shut down and restart." Strangely enough it doesn't seem to have been doing it all night though... Once last night for the updates and then randomly those 3 this morning...

KB5009624 Breaks 2012R2 HyperV https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/s269qy/kb5009624_breaks_2012r2_hyperv/ That was close! Sitting at home but on a remote session to update all the servers 'out of hours'... Then I notice the time is quite close to the back-up running so I decide not to do the Hyper-V host tonight!

Hopefully someone will tell me if I have got this wrong and I am by no means an expert in Virtual Machines but I just wanted to pick up on a couple of things to help my understanding of your situation... Do you mean one of the Virtual Servers (VHD) has been moved to the C drive? Could you also tell me what you mean by 'I have just noticed'? From your statement it appears that this is either some automatic process, or that someone else in your team has been dealing with this issue. I would be vary wary of messing with anything unless I knew the full facts on how this was configured to work (failovers, clusters etc.) especially if a 3rd party support provider has set it all up... In my mind if you have a D drive that is set up for Virtual Machines, these are the Virtual Servers/Virtual Drives. If I was setting this up and I had say a 150 GB drive I would create 3 virtual servers with a fixed hard disk size of 50GB each (this would consume the whole drive, whilst the actual 'data' in each servers disk would not)... From a standard server install on each 'virtual disk' you would maybe see 30 GB of free space in each, but the actual drive they were on would still be 'full'. As stated above dynamically expanding disks can grow unnoticed until it is too late, but of course fixed disks can fill up quickly with something running on it like SQL (or my WSUS server which is virtual and I have to keep a close eye on the free space).

I never really got into what Java, Javascript, SDK, JDK etc... actually are and why they are good or bad (apart from having similar holes and vulnerabilities to Flash and that 'Java' needs to be deleted from all the computers)... However, I still see adverts for programming in Java and as far as I'm aware 'Javascript' is still heavily in use across the internet (which I think is different from having Java installed on your computer to run a program and being a security risk). Someone will hopefully chime in and tell me I'm wrong if not, but I have noticed on our MDM (Meraki) there is a setting to allow 'Javascript' and I've allowed it for our iPads for the above reasons.

Does any of the exam software have a minimum spec, or system requirements web page or instruction/set-up manual?

This... Is it looking for an older version of .NET? We run LTSC and for a certain software program it always complains about .NET not being installed and I have to run DISM from a USB with the '\sources\sxs' folder in the OS install files. It looks for .NET 3.5 which as far as I can tell isn't installed on a fresh LTSC Windows 10 set up, only '.NET Framework 4.7 Advanced Services' is available in 'Turn Windows Features on or off' not 3.5 (includes .NET 2.0 and 3.0). YMMV (not sure what's installed by default on other versions of Windows 10.

Bit more info here: "You can upgrade from Windows 10 LTSC to Windows 10 General Availability Channel, provided that you upgrade to the same or a newer build version. For example, Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB can be upgraded to Windows 10 Enterprise version 1607 or later. Upgrade is supported using the in-place upgrade process (using Windows setup). You will need to use the Product Key switch if you want to keep your apps. If you don't use the switch, the option Keep personal files and apps option is grayed out. The command line would be setup.exe /pkey xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx, using your relevant Windows 10 SAC product key. For example, if using a KMS, the command line would be setup.exe /pkey NPPR9-FWDCX-D2C8J-H872K-2YT43." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/upgrade/windows-10-upgrade-paths So you can 'upgrade' to a SAC version from an LT. I have just kept to LT versions for now... Am I right in thinking you have 3 more years of extended support for 1507 LTSB (2015) though? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-2015-ltsb

I'm not sure about the upgrade path from 1507 LTSB to a different flavour or if you have to keep to a Long-Term version... I don't think the Long-Term version can do upgrades via an update, it must be an in-place upgrade. A while ago I did a few from 1607 LTSB > 1809 LTSC (choosing to keep 'files and programs') and they've completed OK. For mine I just expanded the 1809 LTSC ISO onto a USB and whilst the 1607 LTSB computer was up and running navigated to the USB, double clicked the set-up program and followed the prompts.

Possibly this...? http://www.edugeek.net/forums/cloud-services/225722-missing-toolbar-people-tab-outlook-owa-cant-add-contacts.html That didn't take long...

All our staff use OWA (as they only have one email account), so I purposefully exclude it and don't install Outlook when installing Office on their machines apart from my own and one or two others in SLT who have to deal with multiple email accounts. So my vote is OWA and Outlook (not really) available (only at my discretion and to a select few)...

I am, in truth, mortified that I have publicly shared my f... fee.... feeel.... ugh... feelings.... Good lord man, I can feel my stiff upper lip trembling as I type! I shall have to have a stiff port and watch some cricket! HURRAH (or not given the resounding thrashing the Aussies gave our boys, eh what?)... EDIT: GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

I have avoided really discussing my personal feelings/opinions on this thread or in public generally, but I feel I'm in the company of 'mostly sane adults' and I'll also be forgiven for not reading the whole thread hopefully (I did read the opening post about being nice and not political though)... so, forgive me if any of these points have been covered somewhere in those 338 pages. I briefly saw on the news this morning about the lady who is keeping her child from school (and the fact that fines or imprisonment are threatened) and the figures she quoted on child deaths and 'long Covid' (figures that could not be corroborated at the time by the presenters or even Dr. Hilary as these figures are apparently not published)... were quite surprisingly high considering the previous general feeling about this mainly being only deadly to the old or those with underlying health conditions. It confused me that the presenters (who may have just been playing devil's advocate or trying to get her to say something controversial) were asking what her problem was about children being in school. Have these people ever had a child (or one that has gone to school)? Has their child ever got nits? No amount of hand washing or opening windows will stop the children congregating (let alone the fact that 30 of them are in a small room together most of the day without masks - and it is predominantly an airborne virus). I do feel very bad for the teachers, in my opinion (even bearing in mind that Covid is reported to be a 'very mild' disease in children), schools are still a breeding ground and are right at the top of transmission environments. We had done reasonably well previously (we are a small school) with only the odd teacher or TA being off, but when returning from the Christmas break at least 10 staff had reported testing positive days after we broke up for the holidays. I have a few Covid deniers/ant-vaxxers/conspiracy theorists on my Facebook (don't ask... mainly anti-government/old punk friends from my youth) but I don't really see any validity in anything they post (although some of what they say could 'possibly' be true). Yes this is a 'new' vaccine, but the underlying technology is not new. Yes there have been mistakes with all sorts of medicines and vaccines in the past and indeed there are quite a few reports of even the Covid vaccine producing reactions that result in death. I'm not sure honestly if I would change my mind if I was personally related to someone who had died from the vaccine, if I would be the ethical/altruistic/empathetic person that puts the good of the world above my own personal tragedy... and against the fact that vaccines have all but eradicated many previous endemic diseases. They also don't want to be told to wear masks (muzzled) by the Fascist state... or told where and when they can go for a beer... I also see a lot of misunderstanding from them about why you would want to be vaccinated (to protect others, not yourself) and why children should be treated as a major source of the spread. Initially the argument was that children being infected didn't matter because for them it appeared to be a mild disease, but nobody seemed to be taking into account the fact of onward transmission to other more vulnerable people in their family. A few of them say that they have even had Covid and recovered as they are young (ish) and fit with a good immune system, so what's the problem...? I do still find it quite a mind blower that the same virus can cause a disease in one person to be asymptomatic and yet cause another's death (even those who would be considered not 'at risk' if you took 'influenza' as a comparable disease). Unvaccinated people also seem to fail to take into consideration that more infected people raises the likelihood of producing a variant. This may or may not be a good thing as I have read that a lot of virus variants tend to produce milder disease as they 'evolve' (aka - don't kill your host or at least not until they've transmitted onward), but of course this may not always be true, there are many virus' that have been around a long time and not evolved to not kill their host (but I guess not many of them have reached pandemic proportions) the earlier concerns though was that it could mutate into a vaccine beater... I suppose you could counter argue that vaccines don't actually completely stop onward transmission/disease/death, but it at least helps... Along with this goes the 'herd immunity' argument, but if the UK figure of 150,000 deaths is indeed factual (and that is WITH vaccines), I can't see anyone really putting that forward anymore if they have an ounce of human decency/integrity... I mean look at Spanish Flu deaths, that is what is needed to get herd immunity... For me personally, although I work in a school I am mostly cut off from interacting with children and able to fend off teachers (politely) to a large degree. I don't go out, I don't have friends or family that I have to see (my mental health doesn't suffer from any of this as it is just actually how I lived before the pandemic). My OH isn't quite so lucky (although she can work from home) as she does the shopping and her mother is in and out of hospital for various reasons (so requires regular visits) and one reason that I'm being very careful at work and fully vaccinated and boosted. But I do look at the general infection rates with some kind of incredulity and wonder what all these people are doing everyday (rates peaking at c218,000 per day and these are only people that have tested and reported, so presumably a lot more)...