burgemaster Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 We have been using UltraVNC with XP for years and its been perfect. I wouldnt say the same for windows 7. It regularly freezes and crashes when connecting or while connected, it crashes out whenever you log off or switch users. It also sometimes LAGGGSS really badly meaning you have to disconnect or click the refresh button to see what your doing Has anyone got a better solution to VNC into windows 7 ?
glennda Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 TightVNC Is what i use - same experience with Ultra on desktop machines.
ihaveaproblem Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Use to have TightVNC here with no problems, so I 2nd glennda.
burgemaster Posted March 22, 2012 Author Posted March 22, 2012 Use to have TightVNC here with no problems, so I 2nd glennda. Great thanks, I read glendas post as she has the same problem with tightvnc! ! Will try in the morning. MSI? ?
gpe5732 Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 UltraVNC. Never had a problem with it with W7 machines.
glennda Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Great thanks, I read glendas post as she has the same problem with tightvnc! ! Will try in the morning. MSI? ? I created mine using Win installer LE (on XP) as to create custom passwords etc PS> I'm a he lol
FN-GM Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Another for Tight, I have written a post on deploying it - http://www.edugeek.net/forums/network-classroom-management/74441-how-guide-deploy-vnc-via-group-policy.html
djwingfield Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We use remote tools which is built into SCCM.
cpjitservices Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Skeep VNC Console (Skeep VNC Console) on the DC to role out pre-configured VNC Clients to the machine so I can use Tight / Ultra VNC Viewer to remote straight in. 1
mrbios Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 UltraVNC is on every machine as a backup to impero. 1
sister_annex Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/
JJonas Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Been a while since ive played with VNC. I ran the viewer and it looks like I need to know the name of the machine I want to connect to, is there a management console that will show me all the machines on the network that have it installed?
Chris_ Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/ This is why I configured VNC to require the user to accept the connection. 2
mrbios Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/ If you don't already have one, write up an AUP for staff which includes the school exercising it's right to monitor computers. If you do have one, check if it's in there, so long as they've signed it they don't have a leg to stand on. Alternatively get impero and setup the staff machines to require acceptance of remote viewing, surely they can't argue against that? (EDIT: never mind, possible with VNC too, though i've never used that) 1
Stuart_C Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/ They are at work and your responsible for what goes on managing the network. I second the AUP suggestion then just do it. Emphasises the positives, faster remote support, rather than anything else. Given you have access to all their files, Emails and I presume you log all the internet traffic, what does it matter? Also who on earth has time to sit there watching people randomly? Do then genuinley believe they would? Leave the Head, HR and Bursar off if it makes them tetchy, but to be honest here I just did it and made it part of the general ICT support package. It's actually more frustrating for the few machines that I forgot to install it on! Edited March 23, 2012 by Stuart_C 1
glennda Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/ You can also setup VNC to prompt for authorizing before allow connection I'm fairly sure. I don't thing Tight does that though. Maybe look at some of the free tools such as TeamViewer etc 1
sister_annex Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Maybe look at some of the free tools such as TeamViewer etc TeamViewer is not free for commercial is it? Thanks all, unfortunately I don't make policy - we are starting to use Remote assistance more with the Win 7 machines which does help - but usually its a walk to the room.
glennda Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 TeamViewer is not free for commercial is it? Thanks all, unfortunately I don't make policy - we are starting to use Remote assistance more with the Win 7 machines which does help - but usually its a walk to the room. I thought it was if you used it locally only but having just looked apparently not! Sorry!
Chris_ Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I thought that some of the staff would make a fuss when I rolled out VNC but so far they've only praised it! I only use it when I'm on the phone to them so they know that it's me connecting. Our UltraVNC package also only allow domain admins to connect to machines also providing some extra security in case a student managed to bring a VNC viewer onto the network.
Duke5A Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) I use TightVNC 2.0.2 with Windows 7 32/64 and haven't had any issues with it. The only catch is you have to enable Secure Attention Sequence in Group Policy. This allows services to interact with the desktop, which will allow the TightVNC server service to unlock a workstation when you send a CTRL-ALT-DEL key sequence to it. For actually using TightVNC I didn't want to push out the server to all my clients so I wrote VB .Net app to handle this. It'll push out the server exe and DLL files to a temp directory on the target machine, create the registry keys for configuration settings, start/register the TightVNC server as a service, and connect the TightVNC client. Once the connection is closed it will go about cleaning up the registry keys and files from the target computer. Passwords are also randomly generated for every connection. It runs just like the original Gen Control did, but uses a newer version of VNC that supports Windows 7. The whole process is still a bit rough in spots though. Don't have much time anymore to undertake projects like this. Edited March 23, 2012 by Duke5A
chazzy2501 Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Windows Remote Assistance, it's built in to windows and will ask the end user for perms before connection. GPO configurable and no need to deploy or update seperately.
sister_annex Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I use TightVNC 2.0.2 with Windows 7 32/64 and haven't had any issues with it. The only catch is you have to enable Secure Attention Sequence in Group Policy. This allows services to interact with the desktop, which will allow the TightVNC server service to unlock a workstation when you send a CTRL-ALT-DEL key sequence to it. For actually using TightVNC I didn't want to push out the server to all my clients so I wrote VB .Net app to handle this. It'll push out the server exe and DLL files to a temp directory on the target machine, create the registry keys for configuration settings, start/register the TightVNC server as a service, and connect the TightVNC client. Once the connection is closed it will go about cleaning up the registry keys and files from the target computer. Passwords are also randomly generated for every connection. It runs just like the original Gen Control did, but uses a newer version of VNC that supports Windows 7. The whole process is still a bit rough in spots though. Don't have much time anymore to undertake projects like this. Ooohh any chance of the source for this?
Davit2005 Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 We cant put VNC out because of the lack of privacy it causes for staff using the machines (they don't want us Technicians spying on them!). They don't like the fact that we could just view a screen without their knowledge. :/ We use SCCM for Remote, within in SCCM you can set it so it asks for permission.
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