Jamoire Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 It's a serious issue to vegetarians, yes. The rest of the world, not so much. TBH, when I've had such complaints I've often been tempted to deliberately add something from the carnivore dish. Now, I'm far too nice to actually do so - but I'm pretty sure that more hot-headed people wouldn't have such scruples. (I'd even go so far as to suggest that the risk of accidental cross-contamination is probably lower than that of angry deliberate cross-contamination). I had a 'friend' who did this once who refused to believe that my fish allergy was real and thought I was making it up, put some pieces of fish in with the chicken in a curry he made. An evening of casualty followed .
Jamoire Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 The same friend also has some bizarre reaction if I bring vegetarian sausages to a BBQ or anything, he refuses to understand that I just prefer them to real ones even though I am not a vegetarian!
witch Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I had a 'friend' who did this once who refused to believe that my fish allergy was real and thought I was making it up, put some pieces of fish in with the chicken in a curry he made. An evening of casualty followed . Ditto, only it is garlic in my case (and yes, I have heard all the jokes ) Friends thought it was funny to give me some sausages with garlic in - I didn't notice and thought they were quite nice - until the vomiting started....
RabbieBurns Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I had a 'friend' who did this once who refused to believe that my fish allergy was real and thought I was making it up, put some pieces of fish in with the chicken in a curry he made. An evening of casualty followed . Theres a bit of a difference not eating fish because it can kill you, or because you are concerned about the ethics of animals.. What your friend did was downright irresponsible, and could have had far more serious concequences than just a night in A+E..
localzuk Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Neurodegenerative problems caused by a lack of B12 can't all be fixed though. And the prevalence of that is? Compared to the meat related illnesses? I had a 'friend' who did this once who refused to believe that my fish allergy was real and thought I was making it up, put some pieces of fish in with the chicken in a curry he made. An evening of casualty followed . What a nice friend. Theres a bit of a difference not eating fish because it can kill you, or because you are concerned about the ethics of animals.. What your friend did was downright irresponsible, and could have had far more serious concequences than just a night in A+E.. Ah, but that's the thing, what difference is there to the cook? There shouldn't be any. If someone orders something without a specific food item in, then that is what should be delivered. The chef doesn't know specifically if it is an allergy, or a preference.
siuko Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I often think that many meat eaters argue so much about veggies because 1) They seem to think veggies are trying to tell them not to eat meat (its likely religion I am happy for you to do and believe what you want as long as you let me) 2) They think veggies are trying to be superior to meat eaters by requesting veggie food (I agree 'some' do - but I really really don't mind what you want to eat as long as I don't have to) 3) They in some way do feel bad for eating dead animal flesh and are trying to push the argument onto veggies being bad to - such as 'well you eat eggs don't you they are just baby chickens' lol (This one I'm only guessing so not really sure whether its true) In the end its all just about MY choice to not eat, have or pay financially towards anything that can bring about any pain, death, slaughter etc of ANY animals (and yes I know certain things still indirectly probably do still affect animals but I'm still happier trying my best than not at all)
rolfea Posted October 15, 2010 Author Posted October 15, 2010 NEW NEWS! Stawberry Activia Yoghurt is also unsuitable due to containing Geletine.
LeMarchand Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I wish I had time to answer in more depth, but I do have to do some work. Lots of interesting statements, but nothing to convince me that choosing not to eat meat is anything more than a personal choice and that the "holier than thou" type of veggie (I'm NOT saying any of the respondents here are in that category) is failing to follow their beliefs to the logical conclusion. Anyhoo, to go back to the OP and add to the last post (at time of starting this one) visits from the mother-in-law and many hours spent peering at labels have taught me that very, very few yoghurts are suitable for vegetarians.
siuko Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Alot... but sadly not all of the muller corner yoghurts have the Vegetarian Society logo on them which is great as they are so damn tasty You just have to look out for the VK symbol (well I think its VK)
teejay Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 And the prevalence of that is? Compared to the meat related illnesses? Ilnesses related to B12 deficency affect 5-10% of people under 65 and 30-40% of people over 65. Meat eating is not bad for you when part of a balanced diet, yes when eaten in excess like so many food products it can be bad for you, but so can an unbalanced vegan diet which is concentrated heavily on one type of food. Nuts can kill ya know ;-)
localzuk Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 NEW NEWS! Stawberry Activia Yoghurt is also unsuitable due to containing Geletine. Muller Light yogurts can go on that list.
localzuk Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Ilnesses related to B12 deficency affect 5-10% of people under 65 and 30-40% of people over 65. Meat eating is not bad for you when part of a balanced diet, yes when eaten in excess like so many food products it can be bad for you, but so can an unbalanced vegan diet which is concentrated heavily on one type of food. Nuts can kill ya know ;-) And all you need do is eat most cereals each day, and you can avoid it. AFAIK, most cereals are fortified with B12. Many margarine/spreads are also fortified with it etc... Actual supplements aren't necessary.
CESIL Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 OK, lets address this "health" argument... My Grandfather and his father were both Master butchers and therefore had a diet heavily biased towards meat. Not just the bits most people consume but everything from nose to tail. They were both smokers like a lot of their generation although my Grandfather did give up in his 50s. They were both fond of a tincture or twain as the other side of the family was in the pub trade. Great Grandfather died aged 98 after contracting an infection...not diet related Grandfather is now 94 and still going strong (including driving his Mercedes Estate around) My younger brother who was a fitness fanatic doing triathlons and competing in mountain bike competitions and living a very healthy, active life (far more so than me, his slobby eldest brother) died in 2007 from cancer aged 44. My personal belief is that life span is more related to genetic background than anything else...when it is your time to go then it's your time to go... You are not going to get out of this life alive so stop chasing immortality and enjoy yourself... 2
sparkeh Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 OK, lets address this "health" argument... My Grandfather and his father were both Master butchers and therefore had a diet heavily biased towards meat. Not just the bits most people consume but everything from nose to tail. They were both smokers like a lot of their generation although my Grandfather did give up in his 50s. They were both fond of a tincture or twain as the other side of the family was in the pub trade. Great Grandfather died aged 98 after contracting an infection...not diet related Grandfather is now 94 and still going strong (including driving his Mercedes Estate around) My younger brother who was a fitness fanatic doing triathlons and competing in mountain bike competitions and living a very healthy, active life (far more so than me, his slobby eldest brother) died in 2007 from cancer aged 44. My personal belief is that life span is more related to genetic background than anything else...when it is your time to go then it's your time to go... You are not going to get out of this life alive so stop chasing immortality and enjoy yourself... Because scientific studies on the health effects of diets is based on anecdotal evidence of three people? 1
powdarrmonkey Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 My personal belief is that life span is more related to genetic background than anything else...when it is your time to go then it's your time to go... Try telling that to someone who made life choices, like a smoker or a drug addict... (or involved in a workplace accident, though that is rather reductio ad absurdum)
rolfea Posted October 15, 2010 Author Posted October 15, 2010 Try telling that to someone who made life choices, like a smoker or a drug addict... (or involved in a workplace accident, though that is rather reductio ad absurdum) I think what Cesil is trying to say is that all these "bad" things aren't guaranteed to be life threatening in moderation What he is also trying to say is that healthy people can, unfortunately, die from diseases. The same diseases that at exacerbated by these "bad things" This thread has gone completely off topic now and perhaps it's time to close it?
paris Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 not only is hendersons relish a far superior sauce, it is also suitable for vegetarians and vegans!
siuko Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Yay!! I love my hendersons! My mum always gets me a couple of bottles at christmas
speckytecky Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Spose it can - that's if the person eating it doesn't have an intollerance to the dubious artificial sweetener Aspartame! Muller Light yogurts can go on that list.
rolfea Posted October 15, 2010 Author Posted October 15, 2010 not only is hendersons relish a far superior sauce, it is also suitable for vegetarians and vegans! is hendersons taste the similar as L&P then?
paris Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Hendo's is I suppose of the same genre of condiments as lea and perrins *spit* allbeit far, far superior and incomparable 1
rolfea Posted October 15, 2010 Author Posted October 15, 2010 i'll recommend it to my girlfriend. Thanks
siuko Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 You will probably have difficulty getting Hendersons in many places except for Sheffield or near Sheffield
rolfea Posted October 15, 2010 Author Posted October 15, 2010 i'll have a gander around the interweb, might be able to find somewhere...
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