rush_tech Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Do you use eclipse in your Library/Learning Resourse Centre? If so what version is used? SQL server version or Access Version. If so do you have any problems with it? According to our LRC it keeps losing book reviews that the kids have entered amongst other things. Cheers in advance
russdev Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Tell you soon as just brought it here But other people have it so thye might be able to answer Russ
MkII Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Do a search - there are already loads of opinions on Eclipse - nothing I can add to for my install anyway.
Ric_ Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 I have used Eclipse (Access version) and it works great. In my current job, they were considering changing to the SQL version from 'Heritage' which is pants but lack of funds meant that we couldn't
plexer Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 We use the access version and there always seems to be strange things like reviews being submitted with no images or images with no review text. Also other quirks relating to users in the wrong place or not being seen lots of little things I can't remember but the librarian always seems to be coming to me asking about stuff of which I haven't a clue as it's quite an esoteric program. Eclipse support always maintain there is nothing wrong with it. Also had some fun recently after I applied a fingerprint scanner update which was only supposed to be for a certain version of the scanner software but I couldn't find what version we were running so I ran it anyway turned out to be wrong but eclipse did send me the cd to update the fingerprint software the second time I rang. Ben
Midget Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 we have the access version, seems pretty good, but searchstar is shit unless it has full access to the c drive and the share. Got it sort of working by using a script to copy the whole eclipse2 dir from the librarian to a full access share folder. This way if they somehow gain access they cant delete the librarians copy.
nsherin Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 We use the Access version and haven't had any major issues with it to be honest. A dead finger print reader a while back, but that was sorted. Seems to do the job.
Ric_ Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 I should add that the only reason for us wanting the SQL version is because of some of the additional modules available. The one particular module our library needed was the 'aquisition' module (something to do buying books) - the cost of this tipped it over the edge. Like I said, I now have to put up with the strange way that Heritage works with tis requiring wiered permissions.
john Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 This is one reason I ddn't like Eclipse when reviewing it. It looks nice and sounds great, but its module after module after module, and in the end it costs loads more than everythign else. I looked at Access-it and for the money that would cost, yes on paper it looked more than Eclipse but when you worked it out to ensure you had every eclipse module in that access it gives you out of the box, it would make some significant savings by going for Access-it
WithoutMotive Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 We use Eclipse and have had no trouble with it in few years we've had it.
Simcfc73 Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 We've had Eclipse for 2 years nearly and hopefully the librarian will have got 30 books on the system by its anniversary. Worst £2k we ever spent.
OverWorked Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 We've had Eclipse for 2 years nearly and hopefully the librarian will have got 30 books on the system by its anniversary. Worst £2k we ever spent. That's tragic. We got Eclipse this year and think it's great. (I can't help with the original question, though).
OverWorked Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 we have the access version, seems pretty good, but searchstar is shit unless it has full access to the c drive and the share. We haven't experienced this. In my experience, Searchstar just needs the default file permissions for it's installation folder. Eclipse, on the other hand, needs the user to have full access to the installation folder. Everyone needs full access to the server share, in all cases.
Nij.UK Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 We also use eclipse, the access version, but im not sure if the kids do the book reviews etc..... i will have to ask the Lib about that one But i must have installed it 2 years back, and have had to do very little maintainance on it....... i would say its very stable overall!
MkII Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 Worked well here. Parent complained about fingerprinting so had to cease using that, then Librarian was made redundant and so now so is Eclipse - £2k wasted here too [and the Librarians time entering our 2000 books!].
Simcfc73 Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 I imagine that there would be trouble with the fingerprint stuff, no matter how much you explain it. Our local rag had a letter from the UK independant party saying it was infringing the rights of the kids to have their fingerprints taken for their canteen software.
Ravening_Wolf Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 I have found Eclipse to be set and run which to me was great. Not like the giant pile of turd called Oliver which we have just installed at my current school.
deed02392 Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 As a school librarian, I have experience of the Eclipse software... It is in desperate need of optimisation, and there are a lot of bugs. That said though, it does get the job done, if not in a timely fashion.
ZeroHour Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 I have found Eclipse to be set and run which to me was great. Not like the giant pile of turd called Oliver which we have just installed at my current school. I hate it too and softlinks support is a JOKE!
meastaugh1 Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 It's a bit clunky, but works most of the time. MLS support is very good. I've got the Eclipse.net upgrade sitting on the floor at the moment. Hope to use some of their web parts to integrate into Sharepoint in the future.
Joedetic Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 We were using alice softlink but thankfully the librarian wanted to keep it all local on the library-master machine. The only interaction that it had with the network was backup to a network share. It was horrid
kearton Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 We're just about to upgrade from Alice to Oliver
Ravening_Wolf Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Kearton - whatever you do, think very carefully before you do that! Softlink's support is poor beyond belief. We had the system installed on August 22nd 2006 and nearly a year later, the initial problems with the system are still not resolved.
ZeroHour Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Kearton - whatever you do, think very carefully before you do that! Softlink's support is poor beyond belief. We had the system installed on August 22nd 2006 and nearly a year later, the initial problems with the system are still not resolved. We are having a hellish time with there support too. Basically the instructions are always completly wrong and there support does not have a clue. What problems did you have Ravening as we are in hell trying to resolve issues here? (but we just got it)
sqdge Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 I imagine that there would be trouble with the fingerprint stuff, no matter how much you explain it. Our local rag had a letter from the UK independant party saying it was infringing the rights of the kids to have their fingerprints taken for their canteen software. We use fingerprinting for the library at our school. It is very successful. I don't really know how it infringes on a child's rights. It's not as if you can use it for anything other than books/food.
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