localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Yet another example of poor investigation skills in the name of 'anti-terrorism'... London police blow up sports car 1
ahuxham Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Hardly a sports car, more a glorified go-kart. Alas a very funny article.
tech_guy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Even funnier are some of the lame-ass comments under the article....
K.C.Leblanc Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 The trouble is you never know, this car didn't look suspicious. http://nedgibbons.com/ocuk/Omagh_imminent.jpg
Pottsey Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Not able to read this as it blocked. But is it really poor investigation work? Isn’t this the article where he parked in a very sensitive area that was no parking before a parade was due past and he was seen running from the car. Edited November 25, 2009 by Pottsey
nicholab Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Well if you park or try to park in London you are stupid. You do not need to drive into the center of London. Some places your not even allowed to park bikes!!
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Not able to read this as it blocked. But is it really poor investigation work? Isn’t this the article where he parked in a very sensitive area that was no parking before a parade was due past and he was seen running from the car. A sensitive area, yes. Parade was due the next day, and he ran from his car. Still, it doesn't leap out in normal people's minds 'BOMB'. It leaps out 'needed the loo!' or 'late to party!'... Investigation involves, you know, investigating...
Edu-IT Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Not able to read this as it blocked. But is it really poor investigation work? Isn’t this the article where he parked in a very sensitive area that was no parking before a parade was due past and he was seen running from the car. No pictures but Police blow up sports car - Telegraph
rush_tech Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Parked on a double yellow, where he parked less than 24 hours before a big parade. If the car had been left there while the police where running around investigating and the car blew up killing people. Then the question why wasn't it dealt with there and then. It takes weeks of organising for these events and in this day and age. He got what he deserved in my opinion.
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Parked on a double yellow, where he parked less than 24 hours before a big parade. If the car had been left there while the police where running around investigating and the car blew up killing people. Then the question why wasn't it dealt with there and then. It takes weeks of organising for these events and in this day and age. He got what he deserved in my opinion. Oh come on! Why are you buying in to this 'terrorism threat' nonsense. Yes, we've had some threats. But to come to the attitude that parking badly etc... is deserved of his car being blown up is a little OTT don't you think? Can you never think of a situation where you've done something which might make people think 'suspicious person'? That's why the police are supposed to investigate! The same 'shoot first' behaviour is what got an innocent man shot not so long ago. 2
Theblacksheep Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Oh come on! Why are you buying in to this 'terrorism threat' nonsense. Yes, we've had some threats. But to come to the attitude that parking badly etc... is deserved of his car being blown up is a little OTT don't you think? Can you never think of a situation where you've done something which might make people think 'suspicious person'? That's why the police are supposed to investigate! The same 'shoot first' behaviour is what got an innocent man shot not so long ago. Not just a bit OTT, stupid. Really stupid.... +1 for common sense.
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Oh, I do love it. Someone has given me neg rep for this... "Yet another example of you whinging about everything the police do!" So questioning the behaviour of a tax payer funded force is wrong is it? Riight. Well done whoever you are. My complaint is not the police in general. It is the use of 'terrorism' as a catch-all 'free pass' letting them do whatever they want. Edited November 25, 2009 by localzuk 3
srochford Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I don't think it should have been blown up as a "terrorist threat" (I think you're right that this is regularly overstated) but I reckon anyone who parks on double yellow lines in a city centre ought to (at minimum) have their car crushed on the spot :-) (similar to "operation cubit" for untaxed cars) 1
cl0n3 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Better that the car got blown up and it wasn't a bomb than time being wasted if it was one.
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Better that the car got blown up and it wasn't a bomb than time being wasted if it was one. Yeah, it'd be better to blow up every car in the country because they *could* have bombs in them too!
cl0n3 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Not all cars are parked near where there is going to be a parade or gave police a reason to be suspicious
Martin Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I am surprised that they didn't just call a clamping company to lift the car and take it to a pound. I am sure that the bloodsucker^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hclampers would take the "risk" of it potentailly being a bomb in order to make a few hundred quid out of the owner mb 1
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 It was only a car, human safety comes first So, what you're saying is that so long as the police shout 'IT'S TO PREVENT TERRORISM' they're free to damage £20,000 worth of someone's property because they parked wrongly, and ran from their car? It simply doesn't add up in my head. 1
cl0n3 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 So, what you're saying is that so long as the police shout 'IT'S TO PREVENT TERRORISM' they're free to damage £20,000 worth of someone's property because they parked wrongly, and ran from their car? It simply doesn't add up in my head. It wasn't just that though was it, there was going to be a parade next day with lots of people about. The £20,000 can be compensated, a life can't
localzuk Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 It wasn't just that though was it, there was going to be a parade next day with lots of people about. The £20,000 can be compensated, a life can't *sigh* The next day. Yes, more than 12 hours away. It doesn't take 12 hours to contact the DVLA, ask for the owners details, then call him and ask 'hey, your car here, can you come back to it'. Or, if they want to get even more technical and ensure he is coming back to it, and not doing a runner, they can contact the mobile company and triangulate his location using the phone towers (this can and is done regularly by the police). Not to mention that they could have turned around to the parade organisers and asked them to postpone, or anything similar. The police have the powers to do that - prevent marches and assemblies using Section 14 and Section 12. They could also have closed the street using various powers, and evacuated the building next door (it being night time and all, very little financial damage would occur because of this). No, instead, they decided that they should ignore any normal procedures and under the guise of anti-terrorism, they destroyed it. His insurance most likely won't pay out due to him being on a double yellow line, and the police most likely won't either for the same reason. £20k loss can easily ruin someone's life - and if not ruin it, change the course of it completely. Stop trying to apologise for the police. They have the ability to do investigations, they just didn't do any.
srochford Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I agree that the police jumped the gun and should have done at least some checking, but Horse Guards Avenue is a pretty sensitive area and looks it (it runs off Whitehall which has huge concrete barriers at the side of the road etc). The Ministry of Defence is on one side of the road and several other government buildings are close by; it's not an area where anyone with half a brain would leave an illegally parked vehicle - at minimum, you'd expect to get it towed pretty quickly.
srochford Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Done a bit more reading - it wasn't just any old procession that was going on the next day; it was the Remembrance Sunday event at the Cenotaph (again, just yards from where the dozy wazzock parked his car) Given that most of the royal family, senior politicians, armed forces and loads of other people were going to be there, I suspect the police were more than normally sensitive - this is not the sort of event that you can easily postpone and it is the sort of event that would be good for a terrorist to try and attack!
Oops_my_bad Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Didn't know you could park up in London. Learn something new everyday.
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