drewp Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 So which is the better choice the Veriton or the AspireRevo - There is only about £28 between them with 2GB of RAM... I would be looking at installing Windows 7 on them, is the driver support for them OK? What is the general performance like with them?
Chunky Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Acer Aspire Revo R3600 Desktop PC - Desktops at Ebuyer looks to be one of the better Atom nettops. Yep. I'm pretty sure this came out top on the recent Gadget Show SFF PC face-off. I built a PC up 2 weeks ago, and i'm impressed. I bought an Intel LittleFalls 2 board (330 chip in it, so 64 bit & Dual Core) and a spare 1 gig stick of ram and it runs nice. I've put a DVB-S card in the only PCI slot, and it's fast enough to display 9 channels (at least) simultaneously in PIP, and also its got just enough (and I mean JUST) to display BBC HD on the fly. No doubt an extra gig of ram would be nice, but this was a "tinker" project, so I wasn't going to go out and buy a 2 gig strip. If I was going to buy a complete Atom system, after seeing the demo, I'd go for the Revo. Chunks
Chris_Jones Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I've got one of these [ame=http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Nettop-System-Gigabit-Integrated/dp/B002JCYUVC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254315799&sr=8-2]ASRock Nettop Ion 330 System Black Nvidia DDR2 800: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo[/ame] As a Media Pc runs BBC iPlayer, Divx movies and DVD/Blu-Ray without a jitter on a HDTV well pleased with it -- In school we've also started using some atom machines that we've built from bits rather than buy pre-assembled machines - we can build them for £180 including the Windows Licensing. Using the Dual Core boards with 1GB of RAM and they run XP with office Internet etc without a hitch, also quite happy when used as staff workstations playing DVDs, running Whiteboards and using SIMS.
CHR1S Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I evaled an early single core atom desktop which was nice but struggled with flash content and for a primary school wasnt acceptable. Im about to try out a dual core with the NVIDIA chipset which is supposed to be miles better.
pete Posted September 30, 2009 Author Posted September 30, 2009 Hope that helps anyone thinking of using them - any specific q's - fire away.... Don't suppose you have a copy of CS3 to test on them? I know performance won't be marvellous, but it would be useful to know if it's usable. We're suffering from "everything must be available everywhere" syndrome due to timetable restrictons / jenga and it'd be nice to replace an upcoming room with something that runs cooler, less power and is cheaper.
dhicks Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 So which is the better choice the Veriton or the AspireRevo Our Veritons running Windows XP seem to work fine - they installed and ran our standard suite of software, which includes Adobe CS3. If I had any cameras available I'd nip down and get a picture of our snazzy new staff work area - the case of the Veritons just poke up over the top of an Acer 19" widescreen monitor, making a very handy stand for a keyboard. If people want to use the desk for something else they can tuck the keyboard out of the way and the PC only takes up a few centimetres of desk space. Still can't quite believe these were just over £300 each - PC, monitor, mounting adaptor, Windows XP Pro installed, delivery, VAT, the lot. -- David Hicks
dhicks Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Don't suppose you have a copy of CS3 to test on them? CS3 installs and loads, admitedly I haven't done any more than that yet. I can give it a go, though. -- David Hicks 1
drewp Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 I got myself a r3600 and it runs Windows 7 OK. Just read that a dual core Atom 330 version will be released at somepoint!
drewp Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Just spotted that Acer have launched the Aspire Revo 3610, has a Dual Core Intel Atom 330 processor - has anyone got one? Products
mjs_mjs Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 It'll be interesting to see what happens in the processor market, the atom is an awsome processor. With the uptake of cloud computing growing by the day the atom is here to stay, a processor with enought grunt to be a desktop/or energy efficient enough to be greener than many others. It'll be interesting to see what alternatives become avalible if there isn't any alreddy?
dtakias Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 The AspireRevo R3610 looks very interesting. I am thinking of getting about 30 of those for one of the primary schools we do support for. They have a laptop Suite with old laptops and not enough space for desktops. What monitor should I get those with? Most of the school software run on 4:3 format. How about the B173 17" 4:3 from ACER? Will the Revos be able to mount on those screens? Also I am not sure about the wireless keyboard/mouse but I guess I can always replace them with wired ones... I reckon the dual core Atom should provide sufficient power for all school software, office suite and firefox internet browsing?! thanks nick
Haptic Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 The AspireRevo R3610 looks very interesting. I am thinking of getting about 30 of those for one of the primary schools we do support for. They have a laptop Suite with old laptops and not enough space for desktops. What monitor should I get those with? Most of the school software run on 4:3 format. How about the B173 17" 4:3 from ACER? Will the Revos be able to mount on those screens? Also I am not sure about the wireless keyboard/mouse but I guess I can always replace them with wired ones... I reckon the dual core Atom should provide sufficient power for all school software, office suite and firefox internet browsing?! thanks nick Hiya Nick, Be sure to give me a shout for a quote on the R3610 units as we are very strong on Acer pricing,
patty04 Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 In my last school we installed 90 eee-box in 3 class rooms. running office, fireworks and flash and all basic apps. Then we had 11 eee-box in the admin offices all running sims and everything else they where able to run on a standard pc. all eee-boxes are running xp-rm-cc3, we the ict team went for the eee-box as they would look better if we decided to go the thinclient route.
dtakias Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Hiya Nick, Be sure to give me a shout for a quote on the R3610 units as we are very strong on Acer pricing, Thanks Simon Are you able to provide a unit for evaluation?
CHR1S Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Just got me an NVIDIA Ion 330 Atom for my HTPC and it runs 1080p video fine and with CUDA (?) begining to come into more software I would hope it should eat up alot of tasks thrown at it. Admittedly mine does little more than play videos so I cant give you a full rundown on its useability but so far im impressed. 1
Haptic Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Thanks Simon Are you able to provide a unit for evaluation? will look into this for you , have just sent you a pm:cool:
Netman Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 What monitor should I get those with? Most of the school software run on 4:3 format. How about the B173 17" 4:3 from ACER? Will the Revos be able to mount on those screens? thanks nick Hi Nick, We have some mounted on the Acer V173 which looks identical. The only problem with vesa mounting them is that they have the ability to slide up and down and do so too easily, so if you push a usb stick into them, they slide down the mount at the back - not the end of the world, but an annoying 'design feature' none the less. We might have to bodge them with some super glue or something so they stay still! 1
dhicks Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Will the Revos be able to mount on those screens? The specification for the Revo R3610 reckons it mounts on a standard VESA mount, and the specification page for that monitor lists "Wall-mount", "100mmX100mm", which would be a standard VESA 100 mount. Also I am not sure about the wireless keyboard/mouse but I guess I can always replace them with wired ones... I would doubt 30 wireless mice and keyboards in a small room is a good idea... I'm ever so pleased with the Veriton N260G I got from Acer Outlet - it screws to the back of the TV in my girlfriend's flat and just dissapears from view, you can't even tell there's a PC there. Finally, computers are getting so that pretty much anything you buy will be able to do pretty much anything most people want, you don't have to mess around choosing between different expensive upgrades, and manufacturers are making hardware that just tucks away out of site and gets on with things, you don't have to dedicate a whole section of your house as "the computer area" anymore. -- David Hicks 1
pete Posted November 3, 2009 Author Posted November 3, 2009 will look into this for you , have just sent you a pm:cool: +1 I'd be interested in a demo as well. I have a room being refreshed at Easter and the Eco-Ninjas are a bit keen here, plus the desks are cramped with full-sized desktops.
dtakias Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I'm ever so pleased with the Veriton N260G I got from Acer Outlet - it screws to the back of the TV in my girlfriend's flat and just dissapears from view, you can't even tell there's a PC there. Finally, computers are getting so that pretty much anything you buy will be able to do pretty much anything most people want, you don't have to mess around choosing between different expensive upgrades, and manufacturers are making hardware that just tucks away out of site and gets on with things, you don't have to dedicate a whole section of your house as "the computer area" anymore. -- David Hicks Other than the single core Hyper threading enabled cpu and the Intel Graphics how does the Veriton N260G compare to the AspireRevo R3610?
marsdenprimary Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 We just bought 3 of these babies for our community room: Asrock NetTop ION 330 @ £209 CPU - Intel® Atom™ 330 (Dual-Core CPU) Chipset - NVIDIA® ION™ graphics processor Memory - 2GB DDR2 800 MHz memory, support dual channel, maximum memory capacity 4GB VGA - NVIDIA® ION™ graphics, support DX10 / Full HD 1080p HDD - 2.5” HDD 320GB DVD - DVD Super Multi (Slim type) I/O - 1 x HDMI (with HDMI to DVI adapter), 1 x D-Sub VGA, 6 x USB 2.0, 1 x S/PDIF (Optical) LAN - Gigabit LAN Sound - HD Audio 5.1 channel System Acoustic - Below 26dB Dimension - 195mm (W) x 70mm (H) x 186mm (L) Weight - 1.7Kg Still yet to try them but i'll let you guys know what they're like Jay xxx
SteveR Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) The atom CPU is comparable to a Pentium M - a processor from 2003. Any Pentium 4 will smash an atom! So those that are looking to replacing there P4 machines in the hope that they will be as fast will be disappointed. That aside the appealing thing about these Revo's are their size and tiny power consumption. What helps the Revo is the Nvidia ION graphics which is able to do [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA]CUDA[/ame] a technology that uses the graphics processor to take the pressure off the atom CPU. Because of this the Revo is able to do full HD 1080p playback, something which the Atom CPU alone would never be able to handle. Flash also now supports the ION chipset meaning the Revo will be able to handle flash content better. Other than the single core Hyper threading enabled cpu and the Intel Graphics how does the Veriton N260G compare to the AspireRevo R3610? I would avoid the Veriton N260G it does not have the ION graphics, something which I think is a must. I am eying up a Revo to be used at home for a media PC running XBMC. I keep swaying between the dual core and single core versions of the Revo. Just can't make up my mind! I would want to dual boot into Windows 7, which I think could do with having dual core. It is said that there is a 20% increase in performance with the R3610 dual core but is about £60 more.. having 2GB of the instead of 1GB would also be handy. I got myself a r3600 and it runs Windows 7 OK. Just read that a dual core Atom 330 version will be released at somepoint! How is the performance of the single core R3600 in windows 7 drewp? When you say it runs OK is it a tad sluggish? Edited February 24, 2010 by SteveR
dtakias Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 I'd stay stick with the dual core as 2 is always better than one and 2GB of RAM is a minimum must for W7. I am hopefully getting an evaluation unit soon and if all good will order 25 of the R3610's for a new Suite.
SteveR Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 I'd stay stick with the dual core as 2 is always better than one and 2GB of RAM is a minimum must for W7. I am hopefully getting an evaluation unit soon and if all good will order 25 of the R3610's for a new Suite. Let us know how you get on with the evaluation unit, may I ask where you are getting one from?
mwnci Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) I've got a room full of Acer Revo 3610s. These are the dual core Revos with 4gb of RAM. They are all running Windows 7 Pro, and for the applications we are running, speed is simply not an issue. These machines are mainly used for office 2007 and web browsing, although we also do some basic video editing on them and run plenty of primary multimedia applications. It is remarkable to be in the room when all 40 are turned on as it is almost silent. Unless you are running some seriously processor intensive software, I would highly recommend these small computers. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4384382181_d049636fbe.jpg Edited February 24, 2010 by mwnci
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