Gonk Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Here's one for Monday afternoon: I've been reading El Reg and foudn this Bada Bing tickles UK fancies ? The Register I've just given it a whirl on our academic network and the county's proxy letting the traffic though. Unsurprisingly, a message has been sent to the infrastructure manager Ross
dgsmith Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 I've just tried it on our smoothwall express box: Weighted phrase limit of 70 : 105 ((images, sexually explicit)+sexually+are at least 18+at least 18 years of age+18 years of age) Well done smoothie! Gatt, do you have the commercial version? I'm surprised you have needed to add it to block if we have the free version and it blocks accordingly (this is just trying what was suggested on the register).
Gonk Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 Apart from giving easy access to porn movies, its a very slick graphical interface. Its nice how you juts hover over the thumbnail of the video and it starts playing. the real question is will it challenge google?
Gatt Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 @ dgsmith - tried what was on the reg, but just realised i wasnt going thru the smoothie box
AngryTechnician Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Very surprised to see that they are actually proxying the content through their own servers and not just embedding. Renders the content filtering on Microsoft's own ISA Server completely ineffective (as opposed to only moderately ineffective, which is what it was before).
CHR1S Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Birmingham LEA seem to have it covered.... i cant lower the level it just applys the safe search to it full stop
cookie_monster Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 You can get on the images here and turn off safe search, DAMN better block that straight away
tom_newton Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 We're in the process of modifying the cookie control rules so you can't set safesearch to anything but strict. Should be out in tonight's blockies. Will have a nose about see if we can do anything else mean
elsiegee40 Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Will have a nose about see if we can do anything else mean I can't help feeling that this comment should be accompanied by some sort of evil manic laughter... You just love your job, don't you, Tom?
tom_newton Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 I can't help feeling that this comment should be accompanied by some sort of evil manic laughter... You just love your job, don't you, Tom? One word? Yes When we can find elegant solutions to block bad lads from whatever foul tricks they are up to on t'internet it gives me a warm glow of happiness... Got the devs on adding bing to the list of search engines for which we do term reporting and blocking. Reminder to Smoothie users: if you have any search terms you want to see added to any category (currently online games is the largest) please let me know.
Michael Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 I think Bing will be another bong, just like Microsoft Live was. I don't believe there's a market anymore in search engines unless Microsoft can come up with something revolutionary and to be honest, they haven't. You can't be no.1 at everything Microsoft
jamesb Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I think Bing will be another bong, just like Microsoft Live was. I don't believe there's a market anymore in search engines unless Microsoft can come up with something revolutionary and to be honest, they haven't. You can't be no.1 at everything Microsoft Personally I'll be using it, but that's mainly due to issues with Google. As to Microsoft Live I do use it, regularly, and find that I prefer it to any other blogging/photosharing/calendar/email/social networking/web file storage/console gaming combination I've found.
cookie_monster Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 It actually seems pretty good but I have to say even if it was way better I can't see people moving away from google in the near term unless they really drop the ball. To start with I can't remember the last time that a general user referred to a web search as anything other than 'googling' it. They've got this area sewn up. Having said that it's always good to have competition i'd rather MS kept trying rather than just give the market to google as they're probably the only org with the resources to cope.
TheScarfedOne Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I had wondered what my sharepoint server was up to... the search pane has already changed to show the bing logo rather than the old live logo when returning external results.
adhutton Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 The Internet Explorer (7) search bar and the auto search now automatically re-direct to Bing. We managed to find porn videos (pulled in from You Tube, which we do already block!) in seconds, so make sure you have Bing blocked double-quick chaps! Andrew 1
localzuk Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 The SWGfL doesn't seem to have good control over bing.com yet - for example videos are blocked, but image search allows anyone to disable strict search, and then simple searches turn up porn images. So, for now, it is blocked entirely here. 1
rayfleming Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 The other route (beyond client-side cookies) to enforce strict filtering of search results, is by appending a querystring parameter to the outbound request to enforce content control. Simply append “&adlt=strict" to the query, and it forces it, without needing any cookies etc - and can't be user-bypassed. I'm not familiar enough with the different content control packages, but I understand it's a standard way that is used with other search engines too.
DrPerceptron Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 That's very unfair localzuk.. I've had */settings.aspx filtered for a few days, haven't heard of it having any adverse effects on other websites, but it stops them changing their settings (or at least it stops me...)
localzuk Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 That's very unfair localzuk.. I've had */settings.aspx filtered for a few days, haven't heard of it having any adverse effects on other websites, but it stops them changing their settings (or at least it stops me...) That's already blocked. What isn't blocked is the little option on image search pages, just under the search box. ie. click on it and away you go. Also "fair" doesn't come into my decision making process.
Gonk Posted June 5, 2009 Author Posted June 5, 2009 An update from El Reg on Microsoft Bing Microsoft offers Bing filth quick fix ? The Register Enjoy!
sidewinder Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Our LEA has take the extremely technical step of just blocking the entire video and picture search, like they do on all sites Very unhelpful. They allow one image search - picsearch. Quite what makes that so much safer I dont know - its as easy as any other for the kids to get porn on there
tom_newton Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 FWIW, SmoothWall users now have 2 "anti-bing devices" - both cookie and URL based safe search enforcement. We will be working on anything else we can do to neutralise search issues over the next few weeks.
john Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 FWIW, SmoothWall users now have 2 "anti-bing devices" - both cookie and URL based safe search enforcement. We will be working on anything else we can do to neutralise search issues over the next few weeks. Do we have to turn them on sepearatly or are they part of the exisiting Safe Search stuff, or are they part of the updates from Tuesday that my box is showing this morning?
browolf Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I have blocked the whole site for kids on our isaserver but the staff can still access it thru a different proxy, they'll like that....briefly. some videosearches are blocked by the lea,but i suspect getting round those wont be difficult for 10k monkeys bashing keys on typewriters, i mean kids on computers heh
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