MistahBatson Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Hi All, Just wondering what everybody's take is on resetting students passwords because they have forgotten them! We are currently resetting about 100-150 accounts per week. It seems that they just can't be arsed to remember their password, as we will reset it for them straight away. I have been thinking about only doing password resets on maybe Wednesdays, or even charging a small fee in an effort to reduce our workload and force them to remember. As usual, teaching staff seem to think that if we do not reset the students password immediatley, then we are "interfering with the teaching of students!" Cheers
Jake Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 We had problems with students "forgetting" passwords. In reality it was often that their password was a boyfriend/girlfriends name and they had changed their other half, or more commonly it was just an excuse to get out of doing any schoolwork. We implemented a password change fee, 50p. AMAZINGLY, suddenly they all began "remembering" their passwords Its worked so well that we have now dropped the fee, unknown to them, and they have stuck with remembering their passwords and not bothering us
MkII Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Installed Password Control and gave key staff permissions to change passwords and the problem has vastly reduced. I need a fine system for teachers logging on kids with thier own account. Myself and the IT-CoOrd were in the classroom with this teach last week - and the teach immediately logged the kid in before we could get there. The teachers desk PC was logged in with the utility running. The teach was so used to just sorting it out this way immediately.
darkest_star Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 We use ResetID here and teachers can reset student passwords, this has reduced the numbers greatly
Jake Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Like the look of that Password Control thing...tried registering to download it but the username/password sent to me in the email doesnt seem to work EDIT : Doh..my bad..what I thought was an L was a 1
dezt Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 just installed password control, it's a lot easier than remote desktop to sever then ad users and computers etc. Thanks for that.
Norphy Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 You don't need to remote desktop to a server to access active directory controls. You just need to install the server administration tools pack. The installer for that is located on %systemroot%\system32 on the server and its called adminpak.msi. Run that MSI and you'll have all the AD tools and a few others as well
wesleyw Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 @ Mark You could just restrict the user to only be allowed to log in on one terminal at a time through GPO? Wes
Quackers Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 All workstations have the Active Directory admin tools on. So all staff are allowed to open it and change the passwords in the students containers. They seem happy with that.
MkII Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 @ Mark You could just restrict the user to only be allowed to log in on one terminal at a time through GPO? Wes Yeah - must do that - will help a bit.
Joedetic Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Has anyone got any ideas about how kids could reset their own AD password from home through some sort of SSL enabled web front end? I know that I could set up the server admin pages, but that's for techies only so no use Thanks, Joe
ChrisH Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Has anyone got any ideas about how kids could reset their own AD password from home through some sort of SSL enabled web front end? I know that I could set up the server admin pages, but that's for techies only so no use Thanks, Joe That idea starts ringing all sorts of alarm bells in my head im afraid 8O
Joedetic Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Well that's enough to put me off it Someone suggested it, thought it only fair to check it out. Thanks anyway
webman Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Re: own password reset - how could you validate a user accessing it was actually that pupil though?
Joedetic Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Sorry my wording was unclear. I mean /change/ their password...not reset it.
Joedetic Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Good god, i hope i'm not as stupid to let kids free access to reset AD passwords or i'd need to be shot!
MkII Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 We let kids change thier own passwords on the system. Just from home you have an unrestricted machine that you can use to hack.
plexer Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Guys I have been working on a solution to allowing self reset of password. Basically when a user has access to the system they go to a webpage that grabs their login username they are then asked to answer 3 questions the results and their username are stored in a database. When they forget their password they login using a reset password user who's shell is set to iexplore and the homepage is the reset password pages. They then type in their username and answer the 3 questions and if they answer them correctly is allows them to pick a new password. Ben
Gatt Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Problem we have here is that they have no concept of the term "security" no matter how many times we tell them, they keep telling their password to one and all!! As a result we have instances of kids logging in as other kids then deleting coursework!! the Teachers are asking for the ability to reset passwords, but since they cannot be trusted to lock their PC when they are not in front of it, I keep saying No on that basis alone. I only allow kids to change their password via CTRL+ALT+DEL or by getting their teacher to log a call on Liberum.
plexer Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Ok guys I'll dig out all my code it's asp with an access database to store the details it's not finished as I haven't written the part that actually changes the password on the AD yet but if anyone else wants to help give me a shout and I'll send them the code. Unless it can be hosted on edugeek and done as a group project etc...??? Plus it needs some prettying css etc... for the html if anyone is good at that. Cheers, Ben
webman Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I have a form on our Intranet that allows self password changes. Let me know if anyone wants the "Classic" ASP code. But this only works if they are logged in, just an anternative to RM's "Change Password" box.
Joedetic Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 When you say "logged in" does that exclude authenticated to an SSL page?
SteveT Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Guys I have been working on a solution to allowing self reset of password. Basically when a user has access to the system they go to a webpage that grabs their login username they are then asked to answer 3 questions the results and their username are stored in a database. When they forget their password they login using a reset password user who's shell is set to iexplore and the homepage is the reset password pages. They then type in their username and answer the 3 questions and if they answer them correctly is allows them to pick a new password. Ben but how do they access this if they can`t log-on???
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