HP ProLiant ML115 - £119.99!!!

[Netman]

Insight are offering this:

 

This affordable entry-level server provides a resource-efficient computing solution designed to meet both the IT and budgetary requirements of your business. The HP ProLiant ML115 combines the proven reliability of HP ProLiant technology and the latest AMD processors. The ProLiant ML115 is specifically designed with the needs of small to medium businesses in mind.

 

1 x 1.8 GHz AMD Dual-Core Opteron

1 GB memory expandable to 8 GB

160GB SATA Non-Hot Plug Hard Drive

3 year warranty

 

...for £119.99!!! (Ex VAT) Obviously an attempt to strike back at Dell's cheap entry level servers.

Why not buy them as desktops at that price?? ;-)

Edited May 22, 2008 by Netman

[Oops_my_bad]

£96 inc delivery on Catalist

 

I <3 insight

[Netman]

£96 inc delivery on Catalist

 

I <3 insight

 

Flippin' henry - that's cheaper than a thin client FFS!!!

[Haptic]

we will be providing this model for £115.00+vat Free Delivery we will take stock the first week in June ,

[klawd]

Do you have a direct link to this?

 

That price cannot be correct, surely?

[Haptic]

Do you have a direct link to this?

 

That price cannot be correct, surely?

 

 

which price are your querying buddy,

[Netman]

Do you have a direct link to this?

 

That price cannot be correct, surely?

 

Insight UK - HP ProLiant ML115 - Micro tower - 1-way - 1 x Du...

[strawberry]

i sense a reverse bidding war. En Guarde!

[localzuk]

Insight UK - HP ProLiant ML115 - Micro tower - 1-way - 1 x Du...

 

I think they were likely querying the Catalyst price that insight gave, which you'll only get over the phone/email with their education people.

[Oops_my_bad]

I think they were likely querying the Catalyst price that insight gave, which you'll only get over the phone/email with their education people.

 

Or when you login with your catalist ID

 

Meh.. if only they did IBM's for this much (or rather little)

[john]

Why not buy them as desktops at that price?? ;-)

 

I have, they need an OEM Vista Business Licence, a cheap VGA Card (the on-board is SHOCKING) before drivers the lag is lagriffic and its not that wonderful once drivered up tbh! and a cheap PCI-Express soundcard. So on top of the £96 catalist price, its about £18 for the soundcard, similar for a VGA Card and £65 for the Vista licence so for near enough £200 you have a great spec desktop PC.

 

They are silent enough when running but be warned on startup they are like concorde taking starting up but within 60 seconds they go silent again.

 

If they are at that price in a few months time I see no reason why they won't be in the running for the new desktop purchases.

[Oops_my_bad]

Only £91 at Probrand / The IT Index.

 

Add to that an extortionate delivery charge:D

[Haptic]

we have three left at £105.00+vat Each Free Delivery if anybody would like them,

[Oops_my_bad]

What - £5?

 

I ordered two today for £90.70 each plus £5 delivery. Should keep me busy next week!

 

WHAAAAT another reason to remind me never to touch Probrand then - they always charged us a tenner for delivery

 

Shady gits!

Edited May 24, 2008 by Oops_my_bad

[john]

There delivery charge can suck balls at times but push and it comes lower. I seem to have finally got a £5 charge on items like projector lamps instead of the more expensive ones.

[googlemad]

Erm...How do you remove the blue plastic covering the second screw hole?

 

[torledo]

Insight are offering this:

 

This affordable entry-level server provides a resource-efficient computing solution designed to meet both the IT and budgetary requirements of your business. The HP ProLiant ML115 combines the proven reliability of HP ProLiant technology and the latest AMD processors. The ProLiant ML115 is specifically designed with the needs of small to medium businesses in mind.

 

1 x 1.8 GHz AMD Dual-Core Opteron

1 GB memory expandable to 8 GB

160GB SATA Non-Hot Plug Hard Drive

3 year warranty

 

...for £119.99!!! (Ex VAT) Obviously an attempt to strike back at Dell's cheap entry level servers.

Why not buy them as desktops at that price?? ;-)

 

at that kind of spec they're not much use as a server of any description...so desktop is probably a very good use. With the form factor, internal disks and lack of redudant power supply option they are seriously blurring the line between powerful desktop and server from a hardware point of view. Infact i'm not sure you can call it a server.

 

i personally would have the ML150 w/ hot swap drives as a minimum starting point for a hp 'server'. With a usable number of disks that comes in at considerably more than the price of the ML115.

 

Although personally i'd favour a dell as an entry level tower server just a shame the dells only support 4 hot-swap SAS/SATA.

Edited May 28, 2008 by torledo

[localzuk]

at that kind of spec they're not much use as a server of any description...so desktop is probably a very good use.

 

I disagree. It'd make a good small (ie. enough for our size of school) caching server, a good asterisk phone server, a good web server for a school site (they aren't exactly high demand), a nagios/cacti box, loads of things.

[torledo]

I disagree. It'd make a good small (ie. enough for our size of school) caching server, a good asterisk phone server, a good web server for a school site (they aren't exactly high demand), a nagios/cacti box, loads of things.

 

but then most cheap desktop pc's can do all of those things....it wouldn't make a particularly good phone server on it's own, in a cluster maybe, but on it's own the lack of redundant power supplies and lack of front accessible RAID drives don't make it a box that can provide any kind of availabiity for use as a softswitch.

 

It's dirt cheap and that makes it useful for those tasks you mentioned, but i'd hardly call it ideal from a space, manageability or availability point of view.

[localzuk]

but then most cheap desktop pc's can do all of those things....it wouldn't make a particularly good phone server on it's own, in a cluster maybe, but on it's own the lack of redundant power supplies and lack of front accessible RAID drives don't make it a box that can provide any kind of availabiity for use as a softswitch.

 

It's dirt cheap and that makes it useful for those tasks you mentioned, but i'd hardly call it ideal from a space, manageability or availability point of view.

 

You are only looking at the term 'server' from an enterprise pov. I went down the road of a cheap box for our school phone server, as a) it uses less power than full bona-fide server architecture machines, b) it cost hardly anything, so we bought 3 to have 2 spares of everything standing by c) the components are all available 2 minutes down the road at a computer shop.

 

The maximum downtime of the system would be 10 minutes. The time it took me to whip the broken component out and replace it. Which is better than the old system, which was a 4 hour call out.

 

To go down the route of a full server route for the server, we would have had to provide more in terms of UPS' in order to provide phone usage in times when the power went off. As it stands, we have an hour of battery before everything needs to be cut off.

 

So, yes, these servers aren't 'servers' in terms of managability/redundancy, but they are certainly suitable as servers.

[john]

They are great servers for the market they are aimed at Small Office / Home Office / Small Business. Thats what HP designed them for and aimed them at. When spcing up a Small Office network for say 10 clients max you don't want a big Proliant ML370 chugging away and you often don't have a rack for a DL380 let alone a 1 series. So these mini towers are great, on-board RAID, 4 disks spaces, cheap ram its great and gives the company exactly what they want a full on server network with high end features such as RAID5 for the money of a desktop.

 

You are, as has been said, thinkin enterprise level but think Small Business and your sorted and can see why they are great. I will use them in large setups as well for simple tasks such as RIS / WDS, Call Logging, Print Server etc as those jobs are TBH not that taxing at all and can benifit from cheap SATA hard drives than the more expensive SCSI or SAS Drives.

[googlemad]

Anyone got this running with 4 NICs?

 

I have the onboard one, a Intel PCI-E gigabit one, and then 2 3com 10/100 PCI ones.

 

All picked up apart from one of the 3com cards which seemingly hasn't got any resources available so just sits there with a yellow exclamation mark under Server 2k3.

 

Wanting to use it as a test virtualization server so having 4 hardware NICs would be very useful...

[john]

Why not get a dedicated quad NIC Card?

[googlemad]

Why not get a dedicated quad NIC Card?

 

How much and where? Never seen one before!

 

I actually found the problem is not the NICs, but it is soon as I have a PCI-E 16x GFX card in at the same time causes a resource overload. Which sucks because the onboard graphics are terrible! (Considering I would like to do some work at the physical location this becomes a bit of a problem)

[localzuk]

How much and where? Never seen one before!

 

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