CommodoreS Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 What tools or software are people using on Server 2016 for bulk user creation? Up to now I have been using the WiseSoft Accoutn Management Spreadsheet: Account Management Spreadsheet But its no longer fully working, as its not creating the shares showing the error "Error-, Error setting permissions on work area" like it would if the DLL file had not been registered (which I have registered twice to make sure). I am gussing some kind of Windows Server 2016 security has broken it on 2016 onwards.
mdrabble Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 salamander - annual subscription but worth it as take all details from sims and we use it for user accounts, email accounts, email groups including office 365 bits.
CommodoreS Posted August 12, 2017 Author Posted August 12, 2017 Is the Salamander tool called Salamander School Data Sync. Also does that only support Azure Active Directory, as I am not using Azure. Just normal local server AD.
ADMaster Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I use powershell. A nightly csv from my SIS, fed into a script then out comes user accounts.
Steve21 Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Is the Salamander tool called Salamander School Data Sync. Also does that only support Azure Active Directory, as I am not using Azure. Just normal local server AD. That's one of their free ones I think, the main one is Salamander AD which is the one you want really if you're happy to pay. Does 9billion different things automated for you if you want it to Auto creates groups/teacher of student emails/disables old users/setups profiles and docs paths/syncing photos to o365/licensing 365/calendar sync to outlook blahblahblahblah Salamander Active Directory | SalamanderSoft Limited Steve 1
CommodoreS Posted August 13, 2017 Author Posted August 13, 2017 That's one of their free ones I think, the main one is Salamander AD which is the one you want really if you're happy to pay. Does 9billion different things automated for you if you want it to Auto creates groups/teacher of student emails/disables old users/setups profiles and docs paths/syncing photos to o365/licensing 365/calendar sync to outlook blahblahblahblah Salamander Active Directory | SalamanderSoft Limited Steve It looks good. Does anyone know the price?
snagrat Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 £999 pa for secondaries I believe. Plus initial setup costs.
3s-gtech Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 That error with the AD Spreadsheet does slow it down a bit, but it still works fine. I just use NTFSFix and chown to sort their home areas out after creation (we have some fairly esoteric permissions settings so it's no issue). It'll still do the job if you want. 1
markwilfan Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 £999 pa for secondaries I believe. Plus initial setup costs.Said this a million times but salamander AD sync is worth every penny. Even slt agree. Creating distribution groups for things like pastoral groups or "teachers of groups". Yes you could script this all yourself but I just don't have the time to do this.
CommodoreS Posted August 13, 2017 Author Posted August 13, 2017 Salamander looks good but perhaps a bit too pricey for a primary school after all the recent cut backs for what I need to do, and as its a per year cost and not one off to buy outright. Thanks for the suggestions though and keep them coming, as they may also help others looking for the same thing. - - - Updated - - - That error with the AD Spreadsheet does slow it down a bit, but it still works fine. I just use NTFSFix and chown to sort their home areas out after creation (we have some fairly esoteric permissions settings so it's no issue). It'll still do the job if you want. How did you manage to get NTFSFix to work. As far as I can tell it requires .Net Framework 1.1 and that is not supported on Server 2016.
Blue_Cookeh Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 I have a 'maintenance' PowerShell script that runs to do various things. Firstly, it'll take the latest RM Integris export and create the users in AD, forces an Azure AD Connect sync and ensures there's an Office365 license assigned. Folder redirection automatically creates the necessary user folders on first logon.
FN-GM Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) @rpwillis will be able to assist with pricing of Salamander. I am sure the fees mentioned here are inaccurate. Edited August 13, 2017 by FN-GM
geezersoft Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 Salamander is the best purchase you will ever make.
Max_Power Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 Ever so slightly off topic, but related to Salamander. Says it can import staff and student timetables into the outlook calendar from your MIS. Is this aspect "live" so when cover is added before school at 8am, it'll appear in the outlook calendar, also if any changes are made to cover throughout the day it'll update? Currently staff use the timeline in SIMS and the cover manager emails out to all staff a cover list - but adding to outlook would be much slicker.
Achandler Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 The feees mentioned here are accurate, however don't bother asking for an install to create your new users as they won't be able to. I tried in June to get Salamander installed over the summer and they told me the next dates they could manage was late September. Not particularly useful. When questioned the response but it will be ready for 2018... while true but when you want timetables syncing with calendars and new users created, installing something on annual subscription that won't see the huge benefit until 11 months into a 12 months agreement seemed a waste of time. As msot of us know, it something that can be used from the start of term is more liekly to be used and succeed then something from halfway through.
snagrat Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 Ever so slightly off topic, but related to Salamander. Says it can import staff and student timetables into the outlook calendar from your MIS. Is this aspect "live" so when cover is added before school at 8am, it'll appear in the outlook calendar, also if any changes are made to cover throughout the day it'll update? Currently staff use the timeline in SIMS and the cover manager emails out to all staff a cover list - but adding to outlook would be much slicker. Most of Salamander runs of scheduled tasks so the Outlook side of things could be configured to run more often than the user export, for example
3s-gtech Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 How did you manage to get NTFSFix to work. As far as I can tell it requires .Net Framework 1.1 and that is not supported on Server 2016. The installer needs .Net 1.1, the software uses 2.0. If you just run the software itself by extracting it from the installer you can run it (after installing the legacy frameworks).
BKGarry Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 +1 for Salamander, worth getting it into your plans for the following year, and their support is just amazing, I rarely have to wait more than 2 hours from the email to the request being put into place I do have an old excel sheet below, pretty self explanitory, you put in the forename and surname, year of entry and a couple of server names, and it makes a bunch of batch file commands that you copy and paste into notepad. It may need some tweaking as I do believe some of the way it shares is a bit out of date, but it is a good starting point for anyone who needs a bit of help. UserCreation.xls But I would 100% advise anyone to get Salamander AD, I just cannot cope without it.
markwilfan Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 Ever so slightly off topic, but related to Salamander. Says it can import staff and student timetables into the outlook calendar from your MIS. Is this aspect "live" so when cover is added before school at 8am, it'll appear in the outlook calendar, also if any changes are made to cover throughout the day it'll update? Currently staff use the timeline in SIMS and the cover manager emails out to all staff a cover list - but adding to outlook would be much slicker.The cover timetable import is usually set to run every hour
Joanne Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 I'm in a primary school, so £500 to prevent me doing a bit of typing is too much. I've been looking at this: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/PowerShell-Create-Active-7e6a3978 BUT it's not running because it isn't digitally signed! How can I get my server (2012 R2) to run it? Is there a security setting somewhere? Does anyone have a basic PS script they would like to share?
pcstru Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Does anyone have a basic PS script they would like to share? Here. Post #8 has updated code. Might be a start. 1
Arthur Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 BUT it's not running because it isn't digitally signed! How can I get my server (2012 R2) to run it? Is there a security setting somewhere? In (admin) PS prompt... Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
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