mikeymike Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 hi folks. our laser printer has just been confirmed BER (beyond econimical repair) so we need a new one quickly. we have always used HP2600n and found them very reliable and pretty damm good basically. just wondering what others use and recommend anything different?? by the way they are about £150-£180.
dgsmith Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Although we bought a surge of 2600n printers last year, we are edging away from them now as the running costs make it the most expensive printer in the school. Like many, we were taken in by the brand name, cheap buying price and quality, yet failed to calculate that the costs of the consumables and their capacity cannot compete with a model maybe that costs £100 extra. If it's heavy usage, go for maybe one in the 3000 series, but always check running costs first. If it's for light usage, I guess it might not be too bad, but that all depends on overall printer usage.
Michael Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 The other option (which is often overlooked) is networking a photocopier. This can save a lot of money too. Most modern photocopiers just need a 10/100 Ethernet board installing.
contink Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Like many, we were taken in by the brand name, cheap buying price and quality, yet failed to calculate that the costs of the consumables and their capacity cannot compete with a model maybe that costs £100 extra. Can I add a little underline to the points above and recommend that instead of asking for "good printers" without a guideline on its usage that you approach this from the other direction... ie: How much use did the old printer get, over what period and roughly how much were you paying in consumables? Once you have that info' I'd then ask for ideas based on that usage and bearing in the mind the likely use it'll get, figure out which is long term most cost effective. Course I'm biased because I spend inordinate amounts of time on printer related stuff but as a rule, cheap printer means highway robbery on consumables.
dhicks Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 just wondering what others use and recommend anything different?? Got the PC Pro "A List" booklet here that lists the the Brother HL-4040CN as its top choice. Reckons the printer is "quick and cheap to run". Seems to have ethernet connection, too. £285. -- David Hicks
here_hare_here Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 We standardised all our printers with HP Laserjet 1320n's but HP decided to stop the model and bring out a new one with a different toner cartridge. Yippee!!
Joanne Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 we've got a load of HP2600n's and they are great for small workgroups. If you were happy with it before just buy another! (IJT are giving them away for free if you buy some of their carts)
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 We use 2600's for colour and P2015's for mono Im not a massive fan of the 2600 but for some reason we never seem to buy another brand...id like to give Kyocera a try
Silverman Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 We also use 2015 and 2600 for mono and colour. Easy to setup and maintane.
bossman Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) We have tried kyocera printers here and are about to get rid of them through natural wastage as they have come to the end of their life. I personally find that if you need high output, quality and longevity then you cannot beat HP. We have 4100s 4200s and 4250s which are all very fast mono printers and have proved their worth time and time again. As for colour you cannot go past the 4600, we have had one for over 5 years and is still going strong. The 4600 we have in our main office is just coming up to 200,000 pages and is still as good as it was when bought new. We have just started buying in some HP 2015n printers and for the money they are brilliant got ours from a company called XMA in Nottingham found they are the cheapest in the country at £180.00 As i have said we have 2 A3 kyoceras and 2 5016ns they have cost us more in downtime than all the HP printers put together. I would say if you have been happy with the 2600s then stick with them I am sure someone will have refurbished units if not brand new ones somewhere. Edited March 12, 2008 by bossman
TronXP Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 We had all kyocera's when I arrived here, nothing but problems, always jamming, the paper trays are cheap and nasty, (we are on novell) driver issues.... I am in the process of changing them all to Xerox Phaser's, There are 2-3x the cost of the Kyocera's but so far not many issues, no more phone calls saying the printers aren't working. From my experience stay away from kyocera... although we do have kyocera photocopiers and they have been running great, much better than the canon ones they replaced.
rhyds Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 We have tried kyocera printers here and are about to get rid of them through natural wastage as they have come to the end of their life. I personally find that if you need high output, quality and longevity then you cannot beat HP. We have 4100s 4200s and 4250s which are all very fast mono printers and have proved their worth time and time again. As for colour you cannot go past the 4600, we have had one for over 5 years and is still going strong. The 4600 we have in our main office is just coming up to 200,000 pages and is still as good as it was when bought new. We have just started buying in some HP 2015n printers and for the money they are brilliant got ours from a company called XMA in Nottingham found they are the cheapest in the country at £180.00 As i have said we have 2 A3 kyoceras and 2 5016ns they have cost us more in downtime than all the HP printers put together. I would say if you have been happy with the 2600s then stick with them I am sure someone will have refurbished units if not brand new ones somewhere. Another vote for the 4600 here, I remember ours arriving as the main colour laser when I was still a student so it's done over 4 years work and steadfastly refuses to die.
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah I will vouch for the 4600 too, we've got one in Art that has been there at least 3 or 4 years, and apart from having to add more memory to handle the huge photoshop files they print, its always worked like a dream. Likewise we've got about 3 4650's in Tech and they're still going strong Touch wood, ive never had to dump a HP colour laser yet, whereas a few of the mono's have broken beyond repair, although tbf they were things like 2200's and 1300's
ChrisH Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Has anyone else got anything bad to say about the 4650 as compared to the 4600 or are they basically the same printer? I am looking for some new printers this time round and these look like what I am looking for. I am also looking at a HP 3600 for a room with minimal computers. Has anyone got anything they would like to add about these?
Geoff Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 4600 is 17ppm and has 96mb of ram. 4650 is 22ppm and has 160mb of ram.
ChrisH Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Geoff what have I told you about double posting just to up your post count
Geoff Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 heh, sorry. The LancsNGFL proxies are a bit dicky today.
ChrisH Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Ok for us. Must be the strong wind carrying the radio signal faster than normal ;-)
Oops_my_bad Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 We have just started buying in some HP 2015n printers and for the money they are brilliant got ours from a company called XMA in Nottingham found they are the cheapest in the country at £180.00 Or £165 all in from insight if you login under a catalist account
mikeymike Posted March 12, 2008 Author Posted March 12, 2008 ye thnx guys a order has gone in for the new 2600 so a 2605 is on the way. dead easy to use and maintain and very reliable
Joanne Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Just to re-open this thread... we need a new mono printer for our dropin. It will print around 10k pages a month, looking at a purchase price of around £500 - £700, however... toners need to be cheap. So far we have seen kyrocera's that have cheap toners and some oki's aren't too bad. Anyone have any kit like this at their school that they could recommend? Ta
speckytecky Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Brother HL5240L gets my vote - purchased one recently from Printerbase Brother, HP, Konica Minolta, Oki, Samsung, Kyocera, Xerox laser printers, consumables and accessories £127 delivered early the next day and set up like a dream - we have an aging Brother HL-5130 as well and it was on the strength of that one we went for the HL5240L.
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