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A small snag - 7th Gen CPUs don't run Windows 7!


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So, this is something I hadn't spotted. Apparently the new 7th generation Intel CPUs don't run Windows 7 any more.

 

Bit of an issue for those of us still running a Windows 7 network!

 

So, don't get caught out!

 

Time to start planning the migration to Windows 10 methinks.

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To be fair it is 8 year old this year.

 

Also loads of machines are coming with TMP 2.0 chips, all the latest Dell's for example. They won't work with Windows 7 either.

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It won't be a problem for a few years i'm guessing, can't see companys that use xp and windows 7 in abundance going out and buying a fleet of brand spanking new 7th gen laptops!

 

I think most laptops reasonably come with 4th/5th gen at the moment so for the reasonably priced ones to be on 7th gen it's gonna be a couple of years atleast

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Yeah, there's a good reason the NHS and other government departments spent a small fortune paying people like HP, Microsoft and Dell backhanders to keep them up to date with reasonably newer hardware on ancient operating systems.
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It won't be a problem for a few years i'm guessing, can't see companys that use xp and windows 7 in abundance going out and buying a fleet of brand spanking new 7th gen laptops!

 

I think most laptops reasonably come with 4th/5th gen at the moment so for the reasonably priced ones to be on 7th gen it's gonna be a couple of years atleast

 

It might take a few years yes. But it also takes a few years for large IT estates to upgrade, so the time is now really.

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To be fair it is 8 year old this year.

Also loads of machines are coming with TMP 2.0 chips, all the latest Dell's for example. They won't work with Windows 7 either.

It may well be 8 years old, but many schools didn't move to it until not so long ago.

 

Also, TPM 2.0 doesn't prevent Windows 7 working any more - MS fixed that.

It won't be a problem for a few years i'm guessing, can't see companys that use xp and windows 7 in abundance going out and buying a fleet of brand spanking new 7th gen laptops!

I think most laptops reasonably come with 4th/5th gen at the moment so for the reasonably priced ones to be on 7th gen it's gonna be a couple of years atleast

I dunno, older generation laptops appear to be disappearing rather rapidly from stock! VeryPC are 7th gen only on ThinBooks now, and looking for 6th Gen on the Dell site gives slim pickings.

 

 

Well, damn, I appear to have no memory at all. Early onset dementia?

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Also loads of machines are coming with TMP 2.0 chips, all the latest Dell's for example. They won't work with Windows 7 either.

We purchased some E7470s recently and they support downgrading the TPM firmware from 2.0 to 1.2 in order to support Windows 7. A few other models support this too...

 

http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/enterprise-client/w/wiki/11850.how-to-change-tpm-modes-1-2-2-0

 

That said, this probably won't apply to the new Kaby Lake models.

 

Well, damn, I appear to have no memory at all. Early onset dementia?

Let's hope not! :D

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if we have 6th Gen processors come 17th July 2017 we need to upgrade to Windows 10?

MS have extended the deadline another year.

 

https://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/03/windows-7-windows-8-1-skylake-support

 

Microsoft announced earlier this year that support for Skylake processors in Windows 7 and 8.1 would be quite limited: compatibility, reliability, and security fixes would only be offered until 17 July 2017. After that date, only security fixes would be made available, and those security fixes would only be created if they had no implications for the compatibility or reliability of others platforms. Full support for Skylake processors—and its successors—was only to be offered to Windows 10.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, this has resulted in some pushback from enterprises, and Microsoft has shifted its policy in response. The window for compatibility, reliability, and security fixes has been extended by a year to 17 July 2018. The limitations on security fixes have also been removed; now all security fixes will be made available—until 14 January 2020 for Windows 7 and 10 January 2023 for Windows 8.1.

 

Nonetheless, Microsoft still asserts that Windows 10 is the best option for new systems.

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:(

 

Microsoft blocks Windows 7/8 Updates on AMD Ryzen and Intel Kaby Lake Systems

 

Symptoms

When you try to scan or download updates through Windows Update, you receive the following error message:

Unsupported Hardware

Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows and you won’t receive updates.

Additionally, you may see an error message on the Windows Update window that resembles the following:

Windows could not search for new updates

An error occurred while checking for new updates for your computer.

Error(s) found:

Code 80240037 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.

 

Cause

This error occurs because new processor generations require the latest Windows version for support. For example, Windows 10 is the only Windows version that is supported on the following processor generations:

 

  • Intel seventh (7th)-generation processors
  • AMD “Bristol Ridge”
  • Qualcomm “8996"

Because of how this support policy is implemented, Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 devices that have a seventh generation or a later generation processor may no longer be able to scan or download updates through Windows Update or Microsoft Update.

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Yep just got caught out by this with the new @VeryPC kabylake laptops.

 

There is no graphics driver available for them in windows 7.

 

We are not even going to touch Windows 10 for a few years, so may need to start looking for other suppliers :/

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Windows 10. Why delay the invertible?

 

Thats why I think. Start now so its not a rush for the Jan 2020 Windows 7 deadline.

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Yep just got caught out by this with the new @VeryPC kabylake laptops.

 

There is no graphics driver available for them in windows 7.

 

We are not even going to touch Windows 10 for a few years, so may need to start looking for other suppliers :/

 

But it's not VeryPc that are the problem, is it? Any new PC that you get with a 7th gen Core i CPU is going to have this issue. It's not even as if going AMD is going to make the difference as Ryzen has the same issue.

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Yep just got caught out by this with the new @VeryPC kabylake laptops.

There is no graphics driver available for them in windows 7.

We are not even going to touch Windows 10 for a few years, so may need to start looking for other suppliers :/

Stocks of 6th gen laptops are becoming harder to find. So, you're going to start struggling sooner rather than later.

 

We've bit the bullet and accepted that, for now, we're going to have some teachers using Windows 10 laptops.

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Stocks of 6th gen laptops are becoming harder to find. So, you're going to start struggling sooner rather than later.

 

We've bit the bullet and accepted that, for now, we're going to have some teachers using Windows 10 laptops.

 

Or go down the referb route (with suppliers like @ICTDirect_Dave) until some schools do find the time to work out the kinks they have with Windows 10. More than one was the skin a bananna. :)

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