kennysarmy Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Can anyone recommend a firm who could assist with our proposed backup project this year: We wish to do the following; Build a new VM server, install Veeam and configure a NAS repository and setup backup jobs. Reconfigure our existing HP StoreOnce VSA as a backup copy job target. Configure Veeam Cloud Connect for some copy jobs to go off site and assist in finding us a cloud service provider. We are based in Cheltenham. We've had one quote which was over £8,500 for just the man hours alone, not including the proposed NAS or Veeam software which I think is a bit OTT! Thanks.
mikkydoos Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) @kennysarmy Thats not too big a job to in-house. Is it ? Veeam is pretty intuitive. And putting a host together is a doddle. Edited January 31, 2017 by mikkydoos
kennysarmy Posted January 31, 2017 Author Posted January 31, 2017 @kennysarmy Thats not too big a job to in-house. Is it ? Veeam is pretty intuitive. And putting a host together is a doddle. Possibly - I will look at the quotes I think and decide if it's money well spent on getting it done right the first time by someone with experience rather than us taking 5 times longer to do it and potentially making a few errors along the way. Anything other than the school's backup and I'd be more inclined to take a punt...
mrnoisy Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Veeam is unbelievably easy to setup and configure, there marketing slogan " it just works " says it all really, we moved over a year ago and haven't had any issues it's soooooo simple I wouldn't be paying anyone £8.50 never mind 8.5k. Take a punt ! 1
sparkeh Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 I have to agree with previous comments, veeam is so easy to setup, the documentation and support so good that I wouldn't really pay anyone to do it. 1
Davit2005 Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Support from Veeam is second to None, they won't necessarily tell you a specific method of setting up but it is very intuitive as other people have said. There are loads of online resources produced by Veeam themselves configuring a target is pretty easy and you have a wide choice all wizard guided. We had Veeam 6.0 at the last place when I started and by time I'd finished it was up to Veeam 9 on a different server and different targets and a DR site setup with not too much difficulty, minimal amount of fuss and issues. I honestly wouldn't pay anyone to set it up. 1
techy32 Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Speak with veeam technical support they should help you with planning and even installation. Also you can try it on a test machine for test purpose and play around with it. You can read about the options to setup backups in the documentation. 1
mikkydoos Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Veeam would be 10/10 if they did a virtual appliance instead of having to install it on Windows Edited February 1, 2017 by mikkydoos 1
FragglePete Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I installed Veeam over the Xmas break - setup was incredibly easy - to the point where I thought...."Have I done this right? That was too easy." The only thing I didn't get right first was setting up Scale-out Repositories and I've painted myself into a corner because of disk space. But, I'll be setting it up on a new server in the next 12 months (budgets allowing) so hopefully get it sorted then. Veeam is amazing; we used to use BackUp Exec and a full backup took most of the weekend to run, Veeam is doing Synthetic Full backups, transferring them to tape and then copying it over to a NAS unit elsewhere on site in a fraction of the time. Pete 1
PotNoodleTech Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) In my humble opinion Veeam is very easy to set up and configure yourself. As long as your new server can see the storage in windows, then installing, setting up and testing a new Veeam system should be able to be done in one day. People charging £8500 for this are plain ripping you off. Basically it involves: Install Veeam. Add serial numbers in to enable features and support contract. Create new repository for main backup this can be on the actual host PC, or on another PC, or on a Nas, or SAN. Basically as long as the windows on the Veeam host can see it - it can backup to it. Create new repository(s) for backup copy, again can be other servers or nas or san or tape or cloud. Create backup job(s) Create backup copy jobs and set scheduling, backup retention, overwrite period etc. Test jobs. Enable jobs. Total time needed to do this unless anything untoward happens? 7 hours. Kick back and just watch it work, night after night, week after week, month after month, year after year. Edited February 1, 2017 by PotNoodleTech
kennysarmy Posted February 1, 2017 Author Posted February 1, 2017 In my humble opinion Veeam is very easy to set up and configure yourself. As long as your new server can see the storage in windows, then installing, setting up and testing a new Veeam system should be able to be done in one day. People charging £8500 for this are plain ripping you off. Basically it involves: Install Veeam. Add serial numbers in to enable features and support contract. Create new repository for main backup this can be on the actual host PC, or on another PC, or on a Nas, or SAN. Basically as long as the windows on the Veeam host can see it - it can backup to it. Create new repository(s) for backup copy, again can be other servers or nas or san or tape or cloud. Create backup job(s) Create backup copy jobs and set scheduling, backup retention, overwrite period etc. Test jobs. Enable jobs. Total time needed to do this unless anything untoward happens? 7 hours. Kick back and just watch it work, night after night, week after week, month after month, year after year. I agree - the company that originally quoted this is re-looking at their figures and I'm also going to get three other quotes to compare. Cheers.
kennysarmy Posted February 1, 2017 Author Posted February 1, 2017 Veeam Backup Essentials Enterprise Plus 2 socket bundle for VMware versus Veeam Backup Essentials Standard 2 socket bundle for Vmware What do people use?
richbrowncardiff Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 We use Standard at the moment but if their isn't must price difference will be going to Enterprise at renewal time as it does Even more in depth recovery of AD Objects, Exchange, SQL etc. Veeam Backup Essentials Enterprise Plus 2 socket bundle for VMware versus Veeam Backup Essentials Standard 2 socket bundle for Vmware What do people use?
PotNoodleTech Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Using standard here for now as it was fully featured enough to do what I needed it to do.
mikkydoos Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I think enterprise just has reporting built in. Is that right?
maxrebo Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 As mentioned previously, I wouldn't be paying anyone to set it up its sooo easy. £8,500 is unbelievable!!!
kennysarmy Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 I think enterprise just has reporting built in. Is that right? Bit more than that I think... https://www.veeam.com/backup-version-standard-enterprise-editions-comparison.html
foofighterjim Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 If you have 6 sockets or fewer you might want to look at https://www.veeam.com/smb-vmware-hyper-v-essentials.html
sparkeh Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 We use Enterprise, but I think that there was a special offer on at the time. There are some handy features in Enterprise: https://www.veeam.com/backup-version-standard-enterprise-editions-comparison.html Of course once you have purchased there won't be such a difference in annual maintenance cost between the versions. 1
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