Arthur Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 When is Windows 10 on physical media being released? Possibly the same day? http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-will-sell-windows-10-retail-packages-on-usb-drives-76495/ 1
MartinT Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Hopefully the VL downloads will be available on the same day.
abillybob Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Does anyone know if it will be on the VLSC on launch?
Arthur Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Does anyone know if it will be on the VLSC on launch? Microsoft aren't saying.
speckytecky Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Like the answers so far. Leaves me thinking what a lucky bunch of people you are. I'm facing massive change resistance - our staff would still like to be on XP running Office 2003! We are currently stuck with a six year old 32 bit Server 3008 Standard DC and Win 7 Pro clients mostly running Office 2010 with a few running Office 2013. Have a couple of staff clients running Win 8.1 but with the DC limitations they aren't exactly well integrated. Trying to convince the powers that be that be to allow progression to Server 2012 with Hyper-V. I now know how Mohammed felt trying to move a mountain! You get the picture then that it's unlikely a change to 10 with an image roll out containing Office 2013 ain't going to be happening soon in my establishment.
MartinT Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Sorry to say, but in order to make change in IT you have to take the lead. I don't ask, I tell. I always sell in the name of security and system integrity, with the sweetener being improved performance.
synaesthesia Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Should always be a case of best compromise. Nothing wrong with sticking with Windows 7 whilst it's still getting security updates if it offers the best use for the individual schools; again IT isn't a one size fits all thing. Change shouldn't come because a tech wants the latest shiny or because someone high up saw it elsewhere and wants it so their school doesn't appear old fashioned. We are looking to go Windows 10 next Summer. The biggest reason for it is due to increased use of Office 365 and the better integration with Windows itself, making it a fairly good choice. Windows 7 has been rock solid for us although we've had some trying times with some parts of Server 2012 such as DFS replication. There is always a point where there is disparity between what people use at home and what is at work/school; if the majority of staff and students are using 8 at home then coming back to Windows 7 is quite different. Stepping up to 10 should be more natural. (Amusingly, the amount of staff we see with Windows 8 laptops who absolutely hate it is quite high yet at the same time not at all surprising!). However we always offset changes with in house training and making sure people know our door is always open for questions or impromptu training sessions. We mitigated the change from XP to 7 with ease; operating Windows came naturally to the majority, however changing from Office 2003 to Office 2010 was the biggest step. A mixture of in house training and the Microsoft side by side comparison guides helped this. Common sense must apply!
sparkeh Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Server 3008 Standard DC Wow that a super early beta or something? We plan to roll out windows 10 over the next academic year. Windows 8 just hasn't gone down very well and people are eager to move on. Hopefully the migration will be a smooth as MS are claiming :s
MartinT Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Change shouldn't come because a tech wants the latest shiny or because someone high up saw it elsewhere and wants it so their school doesn't appear old fashioned. Agreed in principle, however most non-techs don't know what they need and make decisions based on emotions. Good technical staff can match school needs with the support requirements, security, ease of maintenance, performance and other criteria that nobody else will care about. An example: I really like W8.1 but never rolled it out (except to the tablet users) because the training requirements would cripple my department. However, I have no such issues with rolling out W10 and will be happy to lead the way.
rich_tech Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Personally I will be going to it on my home machines as soon as possible it seems very decent from the Beta's, will be a wipe and restore job (loving the fact these days that all my docs and stuff are cloud based, makes for wiping easily without backing stuff up) I have a couple of worries - 8 when it landed was awful with lots of issues and broken things i.e. poor driver support and things were broken like dual monitors which I used, though I think this is better prepared this time around. Work - maybe my machine when theres a release so I can get used to it, as long as it runs RSAT I will be happy so I can admin from my machine.
X-13 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 For my stuff indoors, I'm going to wait a bit before I install Win10... I use my laptop for games, and I have no idea how/if things will run. For work, I'm not sure. It's getting to be about the time I start redoing the images... so I may leave it for now, but still make a Win10 image for testing.
abillybob Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Well it hasn't popped up yet on my VLSC!? Edit: No way I've got it all wrong... It doesn't come out until next month :facepalm: Edited June 29, 2015 by abillybob
CAM Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 I'm going to have four computers to upgrade at home, what's the best way of doing this? (One on Vista, two on 8.1 and one on 7).
FN-GM Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 I'm going to have four computers to upgrade at home, what's the best way of doing this? (One on Vista, two on 8.1 and one on 7). As ever clean installs is the best. You can do in place I believe apart from the Vista machine. Vista also doesn't get the free Windows 10 upgrade.
CAM Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 It's having to download Windows 10 four times that's the worry! Slow as hell on home Internet but no corporate tools to help out.
JRowley Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) It's having to download Windows 10 four times that's the worry! Slow as hell on home Internet but no corporate tools to help out. Provided they ship the ISO at the same time, or you can probably* make an ISO once the update is downloaded then you should only need to download it the once. *Just an assumption, they haven't been clear on this yet. Edited June 29, 2015 by JRowley
dhm83 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Will run Win10 on a couple of test machines to see what happens, and let the first flurry of update & fixes come out. Maybe give it 6 months or so before considering a full scale deployment on the school network. Will give us a chance to test all our ancient applications to see if they are going to survive or go in to meltdown. Windows 10 is what Windows 8 should have been.
paulellam Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Same here as most are doing, will test on non critical stations (have been for a while in test bed environment). Looking forward to a new OS though, new stuff to learn makes me tick!!
dezt Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Been told by Lancs that they won't be supporting SIMS on windows 10 until next year, so I won't be upgrading anyone at school, I'll upgrade my laptop and desktop though to get used to it. Loving the tech preview on my personal laptop though, can't wait to get the full version up and running on that, especially with the ability to play my Xbox One games through it while the mrs watches her reality TV rubish
MartinT Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Looking forward to a new OS though, new stuff to learn makes me tick!! Right on - there's a reason we're in IT!
mrbios Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I'll be upgrading at home asap, i love new stuff. Come September once the summer work is out of the way i'll be thrashing out a VM, testing everything from deployment in SCCM to the piddley bits of educational software we use. I was very thorough with the XP > 7 change, i plan to be just as thorough again this time. With the XP > 7 upgrade i spent october to July doing lots of testing, rolled it out to our library only around May time and kept tweaking and fixing things. Going to have a bit more time to test this time Looking forward to the new SCCM and server 2016 next year too, won't be quite as quick to upgrade those though.
LeMarchand Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Looks like July 29th is only for a few: We hope you didn't book off July 29th to celebrate Windows 10 launch day -- depending on your circumstances, you might be disappointed. Microsoft has detailed its rollout plans for the new operating system, and it notes that only Windows Insiders (aka beta testers) are likely to get Windows 10 on day one. If you're a regular user who reserved an upgrade, you'll likely have to wait as Microsoft deploys the new software in gradually larger "waves" until everyone can hop aboard. Big companies and schools who pay for Windows licenses in bulk, meanwhile, won't get their copies until August 1st. You might not get the Windows 10 upgrade on launch day
JRowley Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 This was to be expected once they started offering reservations, you can't fulfil that number of downloads at the same time.
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