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This clearly works for you and I'm interested in what you do. Do you not install software into an image to save time when deploying? What do you mean by 'Create a system to setup a computer'? As far as I am aware, the time I put in once a year to create my image is indeed that. I create a system to setup a computer. Computer is built/imaged/deployed and ready to go. Are you telling me the hunders if not thousands of Edugeekers on here that create images are wrong to do so? It's coming across like that - but maybe that's my perception based on your tone. Weird stuff? That's a bit vague, Why 3 times? :-) Based on this thread, I think sticking with Windows 7 is best for me at the moment until such a time as I can get the gap to look into 10. Teaching 50 out of 60 lessons takes up a lot of the time for me. Gareth

Ok. Sorry - but photography skills will not cut it in an office environment. I'm sure Mr HR in a bank doesn't really care that the 'average 11 year old will have taken more photos than the average 60 year old' - do you have a source for this fact? Ok. Of course it is - nobody doubts that, but in this thread we are talking about making the jump on a network from Windows 7 (which is extremely stable) to Windows 10 (which people are having issues with). Nobody is doubting that technology is or isn't inspiring. Agree about your first sentence - but it's you who is seemingly judging people who are not making the jump to 10. Nobody is saying "we'll make the new thing as much like the old thing as possible" - have I missed that quote? Will they? Where is your source for that? I will not 'have to' switch at all whilst Windows 7 is being supported. People develop their own routines so assuming doing it their way is "like someone who can't use a computer' is once again a bit rude. I don't have time to fix things every 4 months. 1 image a year is fine for us and works in the timescales I have. There is a difference in location and situation here. I'm sure we fully embrace the future but in school we do not always need to do that when it comes to running a network. And if you think that spelling and joined up writing will not longer be important then that is a shame and will produce some pretty dull kids. Let's depend on the spell checker!!! Real shame. Sorry - but you can download OneNote for free from onenote.com - I'll check again later. Do they? Again I ask for your research and sources. As for Python in older years - I could I suppose but it came afterwards. As you talk about the 'real world' - how many organisations, companies, banks etc etc have upgraded to Windows 10? Good. I am glad. Gareth

No need to apologise - nobody is really rejecting new stuff, it's just with experience comes a bit of caution. Especially when your school depends on it's IT provision. Good. As a supporter of MS and an MIEE I'm glad to see it being used in schools. Out of interest, are you primary or seconday? How many machines do you support in your organisation? LOL - in Wales we have a curriculum that was designed in 2008 - but at least we do not print and glue. Also - there is nothing wrong with Word and PowerPoint - they are still real world and relevant skills. The push to computer science in the curriculum is having a negative effect on the skills the pupils have and can demonstrate. There is also an issue with an 'ipad generation' of pupils and whilst these devices are brilliant, pupils are arriving at secondary schools with none of the skills they used to have (cut and paste, saving, folder creation, renaming) etc. Although I've yet to see someone swipe a monitor to turn the volume up - but I'm sure it will come. So 1997 skills are still relevant and need to be taught. I'm sorry but if you are relying on your technology to inspire then something is wrong. Yes it can help - but don't rely on it. I'm sure I inspire the pupils I teach just as well with Windows 7 as I would/could with Windows 10. Does Windows 10 really help learning when compared to Window 7? Is that what you are saying? Show me a comparison table that outlines the educational benefits of 10 over 7 in classroom. Preparing for the future - does it really? We're preparing pupils for jobs that do not exist yet and to use technologies/OSed that are not yet out there (to paraphrase and steal a quote from somewhere). Not quite sure what you are asking. What boring things? Isn't OneNote free for all Windows versions? If so then moving to 10 doesn't make a difference. Most schools will have Office 2013/2016 anyway so OneNote is part of that. We block command line access - doesn't stop me teaching python to Year 7 8 and 9 and VB to Years 10-13 for their GCSE/A Level courses. Why would you think I need the command line? Do you teach (asking out of interest). I often find myself in a funny situation on here as being a teacher and a technical person as well. Gareth

We are still running Windows 7Ent here and it's just fine. Security updates are arriving - everything works. Machines are fast enough. All is good. I'm just looking at research before I go there. Gareth

Harsh and a bit rude if I'm honest - maybe not your intention. I won't justify my question to you, but when working in a school, having Paint3D just because it is there is not a concern. Gareth

I've been following this forum with interest since W10 was released, waiting, biding my time before taking a proper look at it (after several false starts). Am I right in thinking the best way of deploying Windows 10 at the moment is to choose an image, do all the work on it and then stick with it for at least a year. We make our images yearly. So when I do decide to move the school to 10, I choose a version - maybe the latest, or maybe the one below and simply create the image based on that? I guess people do not want to be updating their base images every time a new version comes out. So turning off the version updates is the best way of doing this? Or would you let the updates through via MDT and let your network update itself to the latest version release? Cheers Gareth

Thanks buddy - what I'll do is rebuild the server and see what happens and if anything is missing. Is there a Driver Update Utility for HP servers as there is for desktop machines? I'm tempted to build a 2016 server instead as it is meant to be a temporary HyperV store whilst I upgrade the main ones. However after reading some of the posts on here about HyperV on 2016, I'm not sure I will bother yet. Gareth

No idea really @3s-gtech as I've not re-formatted the machine yet. However looking at it now I can see a RAID driver is missing from device manager. I assumed HP would be able to provide better drivers than the ones built into Windows 2012r2 - am I wrong thinking that? Cheers Gareth

Good morning, Does anyone have the driver disk iso for a HP ProLiant DL185GS? The box was given to us three years ago by the LEA and is now out of service contract so we cannot download them and we want to rebuild it to something else. I'm after 2012r2 drivers if possible. The LEA tell me they do not have the drivers. Can anyone out there help? Cheers Gareth

Hi Buddy - nice to see you still around these parts. Logging onto the MFDs is a nightmare, but it was a bit quicker today now that we've had it all re-wired. However it is still slow from putting in your 4 digit key code, to listing your departments to getting to the Copy/Scan etc screen on the MFD panel. We've upgraded our KME to 4.2.3 - but no change in speed really, but a lot more options than 3.2.1 The ping from server to printers is as expected. Steve Breeze is working on this with us. Gareth

Evening @MatthewL - thanks for the advice. I've turned the firewalls off and taken off the AV for now for testing. Gareth

Evening all, I wonder if there is anyone out there that runs AIT's pCounter software (v2.87) on a HyperV server (2012r2) with Konica Monolta MFDs? If so - do you see any issues with speed when logging on with your passcode, choosing a department and then releasing your work? The initial authentication takes a long time and despite upgrading our KM software and pCounter Embedded I think KM are going to blame the network - which it could be. We've had our reprographics room re-wired and this is being finished tomorrow with new switches etc. It wasn't wired very well a few years ago. SO this will take out that element of the connection. Our MFDs are running at 1Gbit to the server through the switches. The one other thing I want to check is the Hyperv container for pCounter - how would I go about checking that this is running fine? It works, and the server itself is responsive enough with no lag. It's just when accessing it from the MFD console/keypad. Any advice welcome. Thanks Gareth

Funny you say that. We used to have a Wii - many moons ago before we had kids. I'm sure they would love it. Had even done the Lego Indiana Jones hack with games running of a usb hard drive. Those were the days. I might look into one of them again. - - - Updated - - - Yes -that is what will happen methinks. Gareth

Thank everyone for your comments.

Christmas dilema time - my little boy is 7 and he wants ax XBox for Christmas with MineCraft. This also means buying him a TV to put it on. and putting it in his bedroom. But he is 7. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I'm not sure a 7 year old (8 in July) should have a console. I could put the console in the living room but we have a daughter (4) who winds him up a treat. He has a DS 2D which I felt was ok for his age (and the games were). Some of his friends have consoles and have done so for a while. I've looked at a Switch but felt they were too expensive for what they are - especially when I can get an XBox Minecraft bundle for £219 online. Have any Edugeekers got young children with consoles? Am I being an old fart? Do I need to get with the times? Or am I right in keeping my child to age appropriate stuff - which to me isn't a console. Any opinions? Gareth

We use GPO deployment of an admin point msi. This is what the previous version was. The second method you used above was almost similar (brief memory) of what I was doing. Gareth

HI @Arthur Brilliant - thanks for that. I've just tried the second method and it installs on my computer, but maybe I'm being thick - it doesn't create an admin install point that I can sent out. I'm going to look at the first method. Gareth

Never thought of eBay. Will check it tomorrow. Thanks for help. Gareth

Another request for info.. Anyone know where I can get coloured security stickers? Maybe printed on, but tough to remove. Sort of like asset tags but not as expensive. Small circle ones? Anything really similar. I have been asked to identify which Chromebook should be in which trolley and have been told to use coloured stickers. Gareth

Does anyone out there know where I can get Chromebook spares? A delightful student has decided to remove some of the keyboard on one of our HP14 G4 Chromebooks - so I need to replace them. Cheers Gareth

The failover bit is working fine. It's just the updating we think - from the error messages. Gareth

Thanks @HPlum78 - I'm actually quite scared of doing it in case everything buggers up. Gareth

Hiya - and this will not break anything else? Cheers Gareth

They are all generally quite slow in opening up. The window opens immediately, but the black screen and then eventually the logon screen. Gareth

Ok - I've searched the whole domain and that name isn't there. Would you have a link on how to re-create the CAU Config and start it again? Makes sense to backup the VMs - which we do and then re-do the CAU setup. If you have any links then that would be great. If not - Google here I come... Thanks for all your advice, Gareth