Microsoft EES

[teejay]

Just reverting back to the work at home rights. I found this on the microsoft website.. So its seems i can give staff a copy of office for example for their desktop pc etc..

 

Education institutions that have acquired licences through Microsoft Academic Volume Licensing programs may grant their faculty and staff the right to use a second copy of a limited selection of products on either a home or portable computer for work-related purposes.

 

The following is an overview of the Work At Home rights available through each of our academic volume licensing programmes.

 

But my question is how do i know when they have uninstalled the software.??

 

That method is best avoided for the following reasons:

It's only licensed for them to use personally and for work stuff, they can't use it for non work related tasks and the rest of their family are not licensed to use it.

Your licence key ends up out in the wild, if it gets about too much then Microsoft revoke the key and suddenly you have no working Office in school

You have to faff about with burning them copies etc.

You supplied it, therefore they expect you to support it!

 

Much better option is to set up the Microsoft Home Use Programme and they then get it off Microsoft for a small handling fee and avoids the problems above.

[JJonas]

We are in EES and have keys for Windows 7 and Office 2010. We have two sets of keys one for home use and one for school use. The only key that might get about a bit is the home one so if that gets deactivated it only locks out all the home users. At our school we say that if they want Windows 7 or Office 2010 then we have to install it that way the staff never get hold of the media or the key. We also get them to sign a disclaimer saying they will not share any installed keys and that when they leave the school they understand that any software installed under EES needs to be removed.

[teejay]

this clarifies it a bit:

 

Work at Home licenses for Academic Volume License Customers

 

Basically the work at home rights are only for the employee, not their family and only work work related tasks, not for personal use, so it's really only appropriate if they are supplying their own equipment to solely use for work. If they have a home computer that the rest of the family use and/or they want to use it for personal use, then they need to use the Home Use Programme. Both scheme are catered for under EES.

[iSteve]

Our users install Office themselves from a download link that they register to get via MS. There's no giving out of school license keys.

[marksams]

Hi, Here's some info on this topic from my blog (I couldn't link as I'm not a commercial sponsor):

 

The work at home rights are a little confusing and there's definitely some improvements that could be made in the EES documentation, e.g. in the Microsoft EES FAQ it states:

 

"For no additional license cost, you can take advantage of faculty and staff Work At Home (WAH) rights for any of the application, system, and CAL products you order for organization use."

 

Whilst this maybe true for the actual license cost, the document doesn't provide specific guidance for the process to obtain the software or install applications for faculty and staff at home. You are definitely not allowed to use the Multiple Activation Key/MAK software distributed via the Volume Licensing Service Centre (VLSC)!

 

In order to obtain the software for Work at Home Rights (WAH), the school licensing administrator must visit the web site of e-academy, a 3rd party that administers the process on Microsoft's behalf.

 

Click here to visit the e-academy web site

 

At the bottom of the form you will be asked to supply the LAR name with your Microsoft agreement and enrollment numbers. LAR just refers to the reseller name (in our case SLA Performance Ltd) and of course there is no enrollment number for EES. Just enter the agreement number which begins with 'V', e.g. V12345678.

 

The e-academy will set up a private online store just for your school. Once they process your details from the form, they will contact you to suggest a verification method for your faculty and staff, e.g. only allow access to email addresses ending yourschool.org.

 

Once the private online store is enabled, your faculty and staff will be able to purchase and download their software. Download is the only option for UK customers.

 

When we enquired about Work at Home rights for Office 2010 we were told by the e-academy it would cost £6.15 per unit if each faculty/staff member pays individually. If the school/institution prepays they would sell each unit for £2-£2.50 per unit depending on the volume purchased. I guess these costs are to cover service/administration from the e-academy even though there is no additional license cost charged by Microsoft.

 

If you have any issues you can call the e-academy on 0800 098 8436 for technical support. Stephen Hubbard is the UK sales representative.

 

 

 

NOTE: Office 2010 is also available via the Home Use Program (HUP). Under HUP you can use the software for non-work purposes too. Office 2010 under the Home Use Program (HUP) is priced at £8.95 and can be ordered ad-hoc via Microsoft Home Use Program - Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010. The software suite includes Word, Excel PowerPoint, Outlook, Publisher, Access and more! . Prior to ordering you will need to activate the HUP benefit on your Microsoft eAgreement and follow the instructions to receive the specific HUP code for your school, which your staff will need to enter when ordering.

 

Be aware that in the EES FAQ it says ‘You are not permitted to provide licensed product with the same title to any individual faculty or staff member using both HUP and WAH’.

[JonWPS]

Does anyone have an example of a disclaimer they get their staff to sign when installing software for home use?

[mrbios]

How much are everyones EES licensing costing them this year?

 

Suppliers seem to have dropped in price on last years quotations, now £35.56 per FTE and £25.50 per server license, anyone getting cheaper and can suggest a place?

[TMODAlpha]

How much are everyones EES licensing costing them this year?

 

Suppliers seem to have dropped in price on last years quotations, now £35.56 per FTE and £25.50 per server license, anyone getting cheaper and can suggest a place?

 

35-40 per FTE for EES for Desktop with Ent CALS, with about 50 per license for 2008 R2 at the minute. Got quotes from millgate, misco, novatech, capita and PCS. All coming in around the same really.

[teejay]

Try putting an Invitation To Quote on Buying Solutions - The National Procurement Partner for UK Public Services and then negotiate downwards from there, you always find one sales person who is more desperate than others;-) Edited January 27, 2012 by teejay

[Millgate]

If you send me over what you've been quoted on i'll drop you a quote. Prices for EES should be all around the same unless you get some new guy trying to rip you off or some numpty quoting on the wrong codes.

 

ALWAYS buy from someone who knows what they are talking about because if they put the agreement through wrong, it can be a MASSIVE pain in the *!@# to sort out. If the price is too good to be true, it certainly will be!

[teejay]

Agreed with @Millgate, be very very careful to check that what they are quoting is correct and keep a paper trail as it's pretty easy for suppliers to quote the wrong part either accidentally or deliberately. Make sure the quote shows the Microsoft part codes and check those codes against the other quotes you receive, if codes vary then investigate.

It's worth checking that the reseller is actually authorised to sell Educational Licences, a list can be found here - Microsoft UK Education - Software Licensing - Education Licence Resellers

[Birchy]

We have a Microsoft EES agreement due for renewal in July. A reseller has told me that the UK price increases will increase the cost per full time member of staff by 33% and that I could make savings by renewing before the end of May instead of getting stung in July. Has anyone else heard about this or is he just spinning me a yarn??

[Millgate]

It's rubbish, EES prices are staying where they are. Corporate prices are increasing UPTO 33% depending on the agreement

[Birchy]

It's rubbish, EES prices are staying where they are. Corporate prices are increasing UPTO 33% depending on the agreement

 

Thanks for the quick response. I thought that may be the case. I did a bit of Google trawling and couldn't find anything about EES going up!

 

I guess the cheeky blighter was just trying to get our business!

[Gibson335]

I got a similar approach - suggesting it was going up by 29% - something to do with Euro regs???

[Millgate]

I got a similar approach - suggesting it was going up by 29% - something to do with Euro regs???

 

The corporate worlds prices are increasing to bring them inline with the rest of Europe (that's their reasoning). Edu prices will stay the same though

[znova]

Hello,

 

quick question: we bought into the EES scheme, and now we are replacing our server. I know the core cals licences are covered by the scheme, but can we drop the server os licence form the quote as well? Ta!

[KeithMPhoenix]

Very much agree you need to compare apples with apples however they are also some genuine aggregation agreements out there as well which can lead to better pricing options. Biggest bit of advice I would say is if you are getting your servers covered get the requirment scoped out by a partner - the advice here could save you quite a bit depending on what you are doing and your set up.

[Wrecsam]

Yes it seems a good idea. Unless you are a special needs school. We have 262 pupils and msny of them have 1 to 1 support, indeed many of them are 2 to 1. This unfairly penalizes us and makes EES prohibatively expaensive. Is that discrimination.

[localzuk]

Yes it seems a good idea. Unless you are a special needs school. We have 262 pupils and msny of them have 1 to 1 support, indeed many of them are 2 to 1. This unfairly penalizes us and makes EES prohibatively expaensive. Is that discrimination.

 

No. Microsoft have other schemes that would better suit you - such as School Agreement or Select. Not every type of license is going to suit every type of institution. If you have a high computer:staff ratio, then one that charges by computer may be right, or if you have a a low ratio then EES may be right. Or if you have a long term replacement cycle, you could go with Select etc...

[teejay]

Yes it seems a good idea. Unless you are a special needs school. We have 262 pupils and msny of them have 1 to 1 support, indeed many of them are 2 to 1. This unfairly penalizes us and makes EES prohibatively expaensive. Is that discrimination.

If you have a high number of staff to computers, then you still have the option of the School Enrolment rather than EES as the School Enrolment is by number of machines rather than by number of staff. No it's not discrimination, you have two licence models, either by number of computers or number of FTE staff, same as anyone else.

[elsiegee40]

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As others have said, you have to use schools agreement.

 

Witch, AngryTechnician and I were among edugeeks who assertively reminded Microsoft at the Reading conference that EES was not the best thing since sliced bread for everyone.

 

It didn't seem to have crossed their mind that EES would not suit every school and that its benefits would not be available to everyone... HUP for example.

 

Smaller schools have smaller budgets and there is no scope for cost saving on licenses.

[KeithMPhoenix]

Depending on what you are looking to do - it does not have to be School or OVS-EES - SESP is still available. Again its not a good fit for all but it will be for some.

[boogster]

We are a school with 200 PCs. If we were to go down the route of EES how is this priced up, I have seen it is by staff...but what about pupils? or number of PCs...confused

[Millgate]

We are a school with 200 PCs. If we were to go down the route of EES how is this priced up, I have seen it is by staff...but what about pupils? or number of PCs...confused

 

Hi @boogster,

 

It's based on your Full Time Employee count. Nothing to do with your pupils if you're just after the usual OS and Office. Feel free to get in touch if you have any questions or need a quote

 

Luke