gshaw Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Perhaps this is what the Start Screen looks like when a mouse is attached? As soon as a pointing device is disconnected, it reverts back to the touch interface? I think we may have just agreed on something
Arthur Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I think we may have just agreed on something It certainly makes sense when you think about it logically.
zag Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 And the turnaround continues! (in a good way) A purportedly leaked screenshot of what appears to be an upcoming version of Windows has given us a closer look at the much-rumored new "hybrid" Start Menu, suggesting it may be coming sooner, rather than later. New leaked 'Windows 8 screenshot': The Start Menu strikes back
Arthur Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 And the turnaround continues! (in a good way) And a new activation system for retail licenses too... www.windows9update.com/2014/07/wzor-updates-3-windows-9-will-introduce-new-stronger-activation-policies/
gshaw Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 And a new activation system for retail licenses too... www.windows9update.com/2014/07/wzor-updates-3-windows-9-will-introduce-new-stronger-activation-policies/ Hmmm have they not learnt from the XBone that constant license check-in systems are a sure way to lose customers?
abillybob Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) And the turnaround continues! (in a good way) [ATTACH=CONFIG]25644[/ATTACH] New leaked 'Windows 8 screenshot': The Start Menu strikes back Looks just like Classic Shell anyway, I've had this for almost two years! Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements Here's a screen shot of Classic Shell: Edited July 15, 2014 by abillybob
zag Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 The difference (I think) is that the metro apps are running inside the menu. Thats pretty cool, even if nobody ever uses them
robjduk Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 surprised half of you can post on here from 1998. Progress people, your meant to be helping progress the next generation! 1
sparkeh Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 surprised half of you can post on here from 1998. Progress people, your meant to be helping progress the next generation! Because its new its good? Huh-uh. Bad UI design is bad UI design whether its from 1998, 2008 or 2228.
SYNACK Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Because its new its good? Huh-uh. Bad UI design is bad UI design whether its from 1998, 2008 or 2228. It's not actually that bad or different if you look past the surface. It also did not come from nowhere but rather a bunch of studies into how many people actually work with computers. Sure they went a little overboard with some things but it still has a bunch more ui sense than your average apple product in most cases. At least they bothered with tutorials and instructions as opposed to apples look it up on youtube approach as they refuse to document it. Saying that Windows 9s new activation method may put me off, I have machines that never touch the,net for months at a time that simply won't work like that. All the searching and shortcutting had also better be there as going back to Windows 7 would drive me mad given the UI now, I used 95s UI for decades with the other windows versions and it is junk for high res screens and scaling dpi. Now it can be a tablet to, they just need to give people a choice rather than this apple we know nest BS they have been pulling.
Arthur Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 The people who had the biggest problem with Windows 8 were those who hadn't been using the Windows key to search for programs in Vista and 7. Windows 8.1 has arrived, and with it we herald the triumphant return of the Start button. My response to the complaints over its absence in Windows 8 was simply "press the one on the keyboard", but as I pondered how that response has gone down with users over the last year, I came to a realisation. There are 3 basic types of computer users: Those who never noticed that almost every keyboard they have used for at least the last 10 years has a Windows key on it. Those who have wondered for 10 years what that key on the keyboard does. Those who pressed it 10 years ago and found out. Source: http://angrytechnician.wordpress.com/2013/10/18/some-thoughts-on-the-start-button
Gatt Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 surprised half of you can post on here from 1998. Progress people, your meant to be helping progress the next generation! Windows 8 = Regression, not Progression.. We went from Nice shiny Windows 7 back to something that looked like a mashup of Windows 1 and 3.1! Windows 8.1 (now 8.2 & 9) seem to be getting us back on track.. Will wait and see though..
sted Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Windows 8 = Regression, not Progression.. We went from Nice shiny Windows 7 back to something that looked like a mashup of Windows 1 and 3.1! Windows 8.1 (now 8.2 & 9) seem to be getting us back on track.. Will wait and see though.. i disagree it looks simpler and cleaner than 7 boots quicker and for what i personally do i prefer the start screen as the stuff i use most often is there in giant blocks which can update and show me stuff. Tbh desktop mode dosent look or feel that different from 7 imo. My main issue is the stupid way of dealing with apps from an enterprise point of view
zag Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 The windows metro screen was a complete and utter failure on the desktop. I can't believe after 46 pages people think its still a good idea Even Microsoft has now admitted it and it basically bringing back the old style start menu. That's great news in my opinion.
Davit2005 Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Server 2012 R2 and it's touch interface is going to drive me to installing the Core version so I don't have to see the metro interface. In actual fact I think that's what I am going to do at home to see how I get on. I know why they do it, to make sessions for RDP look similar to the desktop equivalent . So now we have a Server GUI with metro interface Hopefully Windows 9 will be a bit intelligent and only give you a Metro when you are on a Touch Screen device.
localzuk Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Server 2012 R2 and it's touch interface is going to drive me to installing the Core version so I don't have to see the metro interface. In actual fact I think that's what I am going to do at home to see how I get on. Don't see why it would. We've been running 2012 since September and we've barely noticed the Modern UI interface.
LeMarchand Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 The people who had the biggest problem with Windows 8 were those who hadn't been using the Windows key to search for programs in Vista and 7. That quote you posted highlights what frustrates me about many users: why are so many people willing to click on every damn "FREE STUFF!!!" link they see, but never bother to find out what the keys they see every day do? Or ever think "I should search to see if there's a quicker way of doing task x"? i disagree it looks simpler and cleaner than 7 boots quicker and for what i personally do i prefer the start screen as the stuff i use most often is there in giant blocks which can update and show me stuff. Tbh desktop mode dosent look or feel that different from 7 imo. My main issue is the stupid way of dealing with apps from an enterprise point of view Totally agree about the desktop. I have my (counts) 4 most commonly used items: RSS ticker - though I might set that to start with Windows, Browser (ditto), Remote Desktop and VirtualBox (hopefully soon being able to ditch that) on the taskbar. There's a handful of other items (Word, SIMS, a few others) on the "Main" Start Screen and everything else on the "everything" screen. Just Win + type if I need it, or pin items that start being used more frequently. Pupils at one school get an alphabetised list of all the programs they need on the main screen, while it's split into subject groups at another. Suits my way of working fine, though maybe I happen to have a method that happens to "fit". Of course it may just be that others aren't willing to try a new method to see if it will work for them... Plus: the aforementioned faster boot!
Gatt Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 To be fair on TIFKAM, it DOES work when using a Touch-Enabled devices For example, I struggle to get round my server 2008 r2 servers when using Microsoft's RDP client for Android - lots of zooming needed and many mi-taps (Magnifier is a biatch when RDP'ing in over a tablet!) However, Win8/Server 2012 is much much easier when using the tiles! TIFKAM has its place - on touch enabled devices.. (or RDP'ing over a tablet) The implementation for tablet components in Windows 7 worked - in that it only isntalled the components if it detects touch hardware.
sparkeh Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Oh yeah I was referring to the UI being used on a non-touch device, TIFKAM is ok on a touch enabled device (even on a touch screen laptop!) but I find it horrible on non-touch. They are different experiences that require a different UI a la OSX vs iOS.
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