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Most companies use channel figures to show sales, as getting end user sales figures would be very difficult - what are they going to do?

I bet Google knows how many Android tablets are actively in use by end users and can break that data down by make and model too.

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There are 3 types of lies ... Lies, Journalism and Marketing (heavily paraphrased and a generalisation).

 

You forgot to add the new 'political mis-speaking'. Aka. whenever a US politician lies and gets caught out they always say 'oops, i misspoke'.

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I bet Google knows how many Android tablets are actively in use by end users and can break that data down by make and model too.

 

Market stats would be able to give a pretty accurate figure I imagine

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When apple were just about to release the ipad they removed the camera, not for any technical reason as it was the same as the one used on the i-phone but from a lets make some cash stance and add it to v2. If your happy with that working practice then buy apple.

Why make up a conspiracy theory? That's hole is for the light sensor. It's not even big enough to house a camera CCD. No company designs things and then removes parts at the last minute. It would cost them more to modify a production line at the last minute.

 

The original iPad was designed to test the market, so I guess the thought of a camera wasn't necessary until Apple saw the product was successful and FaceTime was becoming popular.

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But, isn't it about time that this whole argument was put to bed?

 

Some LOVE Apple stuff, Some DON'T LOVE Apple stuff!

 

Horses for courses, one mans meat, etc etc etc.......

 

It's a bit pointless now, as for every Pro-Jobs website that you link to, you can find an Anti-Jobs site.

 

......And ne'er the twain shall meet!

 

***Personally, I rate the kit, but not the attitudes of the owners!***

 

***That's just MY opinion!***

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***JUST MY OPINION....NEG REP IF YOU MUST!***

 

Bizarrely, someone DID neg rep me....But seems to be too shy to leave their name with their comment!

 

Wow....Just....wow....

 

It's good to know that there is a healthy debate going on.....but don't you DARE to disagree with me, or I'll NEG REP your A***E......That's what that person is saying.

 

Sadly, this is why I call for this thread to end. The arguments are well documented, and yet the mud-slinging continues.

 

Poor.....very poor.

:bored::ohwell::drama:

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Bizarrely, someone DID neg rep me....But seems to be too shy to leave their name with their comment!

 

Wow....Just....wow....

 

It's good to know that there is a healthy debate going on.....but don't you DARE to disagree with me, or I'll NEG REP your A***E......That's what that person is saying.

 

Sadly, this is why I call for this thread to end. The arguments are well documented, and yet the mud-slinging continues.

 

Poor.....very poor.

:bored::ohwell::drama:

 

Say against apple on this forum and you will be neg repped.

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Say against apple on this forum and you will be neg repped.

 

But, if you are going to neg rep, then at least have the b*lls to own up to it!

 

Not everyone is going to agree with my point of view, but neg repping should actually be used for abusive posts or similar!

 

****I very much appreciate the balance, Chris ;) ****

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But, if you are going to neg rep, then at least have the b*lls to own up to it!

 

Not everyone is going to agree with my point of view, but neg repping should actually be used for abusive posts or similar!

 

I agree entirely - it's cowardice and downright troll-ery to neg rep an opinion, especially without having the cojones to own up to it - if you can't handle a debate, then don't get involved!

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Oh yeah, @mattx - somebody's post reminded me: dropbox is a good way to exchange files (see my sig if you're not a user), i think the local storage is limited to 1GB, compared to the upto 8GB on a desktop.

Plus, i often just email myself files in or out. You then have options to save to local. I'm just talking from iPhone experience, but there shouldn't be a difference.

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I'm looking into getting an ipad2 on contract from either Orange or Vodaphone.

The deals on the current ipads really aren't too bad when compared to the cost of buying one outright plus you get the 3G connection as part of the package too, and paying £25ish a month to have the use of one doesn't seem so bad compared to forking out £600 in one go either.

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I'm looking into getting an ipad2 on contract from either Orange or Vodaphone.

The deals on the current ipads really aren't too bad when compared to the cost of buying one outright plus you get the 3G connection as part of the package too, and paying £25ish a month to have the use of one doesn't seem so bad compared to forking out £600 in one go either.

 

So, maths time -

 

ipad 3g 16gb from apple = £429 + £7.50 1Gb rolling monthly from 3 = £609

 

ipad 3g 16gb from Orange = £99 + 24x £25 = £699 (1gb p/m)

 

 

So, its better to pay up front and pick your own package, saving you £90 over 2 years and giving you the luxury of walking away at any point in that 2 year period or swap to a newer better deal saving you more £.

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Agreed that it costs more to get on contract (by above calculations it works out to just under £4 a month more over 24 months) and the luxury to walk away from the 3G as it's not a 'contract' is a good thing, but at this point in time it's far easier for me to add £25 to my direct-debits each month and pay that extra £90 over the 2 years than it is to find that £429 in one go; on my wages by the time I save up £429 for it the ipad3 will have come along! lol

 

I wonder if my bank will just let me skip my mortgage payment this month....... :p

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So, maths time -

 

ipad 3g 16gb from apple = £429 + £7.50 1Gb rolling monthly from 3 = £609

 

ipad 3g 16gb from Orange = £99 + 24x £25 = £699 (1gb p/m)

 

 

So, its better to pay up front and pick your own package, saving you £90 over 2 years and giving you the luxury of walking away at any point in that 2 year period or swap to a newer better deal saving you more £.

 

I did the same as option 1 with an iPhone 4, worked out allot better that way.

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I did that too, £499 up front and £10 p/m on GiffGaff = £739

 

£119.99 + £35.75 p/m for 24 months (£858) = £977.99

 

Saving £238.99 over 2 years if I keep the contract as is.

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ipad 3g 16gb from apple = £429 + £7.50 1Gb rolling monthly from 3 = £609

 

Cost of iPad (1 or 2, new or used) + free PAYG sim from T-Mobile + £20 credit top up. Put sim in mobile phone, text 6MONTHWEB to 441... put sim in iPad (after chopping down to size)... et voila. 1Gb 3G access per month for 6 months. After 6 months take out of ipad, put in phone again (assuming one had intelligence to keep what one chopped off to make it back up to a standard sim), topup £20, repeat.

 

I do the same with my iPhone3G, but then also stick £5 per month on for which I get unltd texts. I never make voice calls. That means £140 per year covers unltd texts and net access on both devices for 12 months. So, taking the quote above for an iPad 3G 16Gb from apple at £429, add £40 just for iPad net access for the year, gives you £469 total.

 

I hate contracts... especially when PAYG is cheaper.

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