AyatollahPies Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I'm still waiting for John Major's classless society he promised. BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | First 100 days: John Major Yet another Tory full of horse manure and idea like Calamity Cameron's big society. And for 13 years in between, Labour made the gap between classes even wider.
elsiegee40 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 its probably a data harvesting survey so the government can actually see how much we have in savings so know how much more to squeeze us......rest of the survey is probably filler!! This is article introducing the survey on The One Show last night... if you watch it on iPlayer, the explanation starts about 14 minutes in with a film piece then an interview with a bloke from York Uni who's organised the survey. The One Show 25/1/11
sippo Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 When Kate Middleton and Prince whatshisface announced their engagement, they said she was middle class. If she's middle then I'm lower class.
localzuk Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 When Kate Middleton and Prince whatshisface announced their engagement, they said she was middle class. If she's middle then I'm lower class. She's upper middle class IMO, or was until she decided to marry...
jdoyle Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Drinking Class me.... a lottery win won't change my class just the quantity available to me.
sted Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I'm confused in Your Social Network there are entries for 'Never Worked' and 'Aristocrat/noble' Is that not the same thing!? no cos one has an estate we pay for them to live on one has an estate we pay to visit
bossman Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Your results: You scored 76/100 for economic capital. Your financial resources are higher than the average person in the UK. You scored 70/100 for social capital. Your social network is wider than the average person in the UK. You scored 100/100 for cultural capital. Your range of cultural interests is broader than the average person in the UK. I am definitely working class as I do work for a living as do quite a lot of people throughout the country, some people like to have a tag aligned to their status but anyone who works for a living is just that "Working Class" I am a Northern Man, proud and nothing more!!
sippo Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 She's upper middle class IMO, or was until she decided to marry... Well the press 'advertised' her as middle class. So if they think she's middle then what are us 'commoners'?!!
aerospacemango Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I think it failed on the very first question............. I didn't see one picture of the "neighbourhood" that is close to how I live..... Oh...and I am working class and proud!
andyturpie Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 70,100,90 -apparently, I save more than anyone (lie) the survey has based the equity on my house as wealth it seems - which is whats wrong with the country in the first place!
MK-2 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 sippo: Steerage class lower than that, easyjet class 1
AWicher Posted January 26, 2011 Author Posted January 26, 2011 I'm going for a revival of the word - Plebeian
Pottsey Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I think I can see what’s wrong. A person with a 100k house fully paid off and 20k in savings is classed as having less wealth then someone with a 150k house with 1% paid off and 0k in savings.
sippo Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Ha ha. Easyjet?! That's too good for me. Ryanair is much cheaper.
webman Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 You scored 32/100 for economic capital. Your financial resources are lower than the average person in the UK. You scored 100/100 for social capital. Your social network is wider than the average person in the UK. You scored 50/100 for cultural capital. Your range of cultural interests is about the same as the average person in the UK.
MK-2 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 to be honest, money is the crux of the whole survey. no point asking me how many times in the last year ive been to the opera/theatre/music gigs. i could WANT to go to hundreds in a year, but physically afford to go to NONE. so my answer is none. a lot of questions on that could be preceeded with "if you had the money" rather than just "how many operas do you attend a year". so this isn't about your actual interests, its your interests you can afford.
GrumbleDook Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 You scored 73/100 for economic capital. Your financial resources are higher than the average person in the UK. Find out more below. You scored 100/100 for social capital. Your social network is wider than the average person in the UK. Find out more below. You scored 70/100 for cultural capital. Your range of cultural interests is broader than the average person in the UK. Find out more below.
Rydra Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I would personally say that household income is the mainstay, forget the rest, and I'd classify the broader classes as this, with lower/middle/upper within each: If you earn less than £50k per year as a household, then you are of the working class; You actually have to pay attention to what you earn and what you spend. You work for your living and have no alternative but to work, probably till you retire at 60+. Middle class would be 50-100k per year, then you are living above comfortably, nice house, car, holidays to most places you can think of, but your still on a salary so can't go and buy a new merc every 2 years. You are probably looking at an early retirement, a holiday home somewhere hot or a nice country cottage, or you can chose not to work on occassion. Upper class, simply don't care about money most of the time. You can buy pretty much what you want, live and do what you want, and essentially chose what work you do and when you do it. 2
localzuk Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Those numbers are definitely out. £50k is far too high for middle class. Teachers are professionals, and therefore middle class and they can earn from £22k up. It isn't simply down to funds, it is a mix of factors such as job, location, background, funds, interests, etc...
AWicher Posted January 26, 2011 Author Posted January 26, 2011 i would go with @Rydra interpretation, but then we have the division of each class group. But, it only seems to be the people in that class who would then workout where they fall. so take 50k as household income as middle class, a family earning 80k to 100k would then in my view become the upper middle class. Don’t think lower middleclass works though. And vice versa upper class have their own measurement they would use.
somabc Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) I think Ryda is correct although it is more of an American way of thinking. The USA system of Class is based on Money - Poor, Wealthy and Rich and the idea is you can move between levels simply by getting more money. The English system is you are born into your class and don't move around regardless of money. If your parents are upper class, you went to a posh school etc. then even if you are penniless and homeless you would still be upper class. Edited January 26, 2011 by somabc
Mr.Ben Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) I was 56/100 Economic, 90/100 Social 80/100 Cultural I think it is talking rubbish though - if my social circle was that good I should be looking for a job as a director at a bank. Edited January 26, 2011 by Mr.Ben
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