TheCrust Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Apart from Symantec's Backup Exec and CA's Arcserve, can anyone recommend good backup software for use with an LTO Autoloader? If it helps with recommendations, I need to be able to back up Exchange 2007, SQL Server 2005 and a bit of Sharepoint 2007 as well as the usual remote windows server clients. Thanks in advance!
AIT Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Apart from Symantec's Backup Exec and CA's Arcserve, can anyone recommend good backup software for use with an LTO Autoloader? If it helps with recommendations, I need to be able to back up Exchange 2007, SQL Server 2005 and a bit of Sharepoint 2007 as well as the usual remote windows server clients. Thanks in advance! well i wouldnt recommend an LTO Autoloader. We went through 5!!!!!! however if you have to use the LTO symantec is probably your best choice. I would however recommend Acronis. Its 1000% better than symantec etc etc.
TheCrust Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 We've not had one fail yet - the first, an LTO1 autoloader unit, went on for years until we outgrew it. The LTO3 that replaced it (sorry, thought off the top of my head it was a '4) hasn't given any problems so far. Of course, now I've said that you realised I've hexed it don't you?
tommccann Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 another vote for Acronis, never used anything else!
zag Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Why do people use tapes when hard disks are so cheap these days? Microsoft do a good backup software now called system center data protection manager System Center Data Protection Manager 2007 (SCDPM) ? IT Management Tool Just waiting for the 2010 version to be RTM'd and I will move from backupexec.
Modey Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Why do people use tapes when hard disks are so cheap these days? Microsoft do a good backup software now called system center data protection manager System Center Data Protection Manager 2007 (SCDPM) ? IT Management Tool Just waiting for the 2010 version to be RTM'd and I will move from backupexec. We still use tapes for the flexibility they offer and the low cost (per MB). DPM 2010 is now available as an RC and it's looking very good so far. I intend to use it to backup everything from now on. It was a little tricky getting it to work with our new Quantum Superloader 3 but that's sorted now. https://connect.microsoft.com/site840/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=26452
Sylv3r Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 I've just purchased Yosemite Server Backup through a lot of positive recommendations here on the site. I haven't had a chance to setup and install it so I can't give you my views on it yet. Yosemite Server Backup Overview - BarracudaWare / Yosemite Technologies
FN-GM Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Why do people use tapes when hard disks are so cheap these days? Microsoft do a good backup software now called system center data protection manager System Center Data Protection Manager 2007 (SCDPM) ? IT Management Tool Just waiting for the 2010 version to be RTM'd and I will move from backupexec. We take our backups offsite every night. It i far easier to do that with a tape.
maniac Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Why do people use tapes when hard disks are so cheap these days? Modern tape systems are a lot more robust than those of old - I had this debate with myself when looking at upgrading our backup system. I was going towards using a disk based system and hosting it in a remote building, but on speaking to the school insurers that solution is not satisfactory as they require a removeable backup to be taken offsite at least once a week. OK, so you can get removable disks, but in my opinion they are not robust enough to be transported regularly - drop it and you're probably knacker it. Drop a tape and it'll most likely be OK. After careful consideration we opted for an LTO4 tape loader to replaced our aging Sony AIT3 loader which is way to small in capacity for us now. We already have Symantec Backupexec so will continue using this until we upgrade it at some point in the future. Mike.
keogk Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 I have not used a LTO Autoloader but we have Commvault here and I like it. It does a decent job and have agents for lots of different applications such as Sharepoint and SQL It is I believe expensive
zag Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 I just use these portable hard disks these days http://www.dclstore.co.uk/images/products/western-digital-250-gb-external-hard-drive-wdme2500te-l.jpg I don't see why anyone uses tapes when hard disks are so cheap and reliable.
Sylv3r Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 I just use these portable hard disks these days I don't see why anyone uses tapes when hard disks are so cheap and reliable. How much data do you backup? I would think one of those USB HDD's would be quite slow to copy data across.
Dos_Box Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 I used Retrospect from EMC: EMC Retrospect Very easy to use and configure, and the procative backup feature is excellent. I used to back up user areas, Exchnage 2007 and various add-and sods to a Tandberg LTO library and SAN off this. They also used to have some fantastic licencing options. Ask Ric for more info as he got some doozies!
FN-GM Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 I just use these portable hard disks these days http://www.dclstore.co.uk/images/products/western-digital-250-gb-external-hard-drive-wdme2500te-l.jpg I don't see why anyone uses tapes when hard disks are so cheap and reliable. That simply wouldnt be fast enough for us. For every server we have 4 weeks of tapes. We would have 240 of them. They wouldn't be fast enough either. Plus it will be a pain to have the plugged in in rackmount servers. I also find external hard drives not a robust.
pwds Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 USB3 may offer some promising performance benefits for backup- totally unnecessary but I'm thinking of expanding the server at home with a USB3 card and investing in a USB3 portable HDD- maybe splash out and get a 2TB one if I can find one at a good price. With the storage capacity of the server after RAID at only 500GB I should be able to store a lot of incremental versions before I need to salvage space.
_techie_ Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 I know that this is not too helpful, but yo can use VEEAM (sp?) with ESXi (free) to backup complete servers to another server. We use Veritas here, and I like it. I even find it easy to search through the catalogs now to find instances of people files and to restore a working version. With VEEAM you can also do file level restore when VMware player is installed from the image you have captured. vmware player is free I think. You could use vertias to backup the VEEAM backup files to tape to take off-site. HTH HTH
Modey Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Just a heads up for anyone thinking of using MS DPM. You will need quite a bit of disk storage space in order to backup to disk, before archiving off to tape. The reason for this is that DPM allocates disk volumes (with space to grow) for each protection item (these can be server hard disk volumes, hyper-v stores etc...). I had setup a 6TB volume in Raid5 config yesterday (4 x 2TB disks), but that looked like it wasn't going to be enough, so I extended it even further. I like the program so far, but just be warned about disk space.
Sandman Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Gabe Van Zanten did a good review of some of the main backup products out there including esXpress and VDR 1.0 http://www.gabesvirtualworld.com/review
apaton Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Any one looked at Zamanda ? Zamanda is one of those OpenSource projects which now has a commercial product. A Linux based backup, with agents for MS Exchange, SQL and Sharepoint and more. Nice feature to eliminate off site tapes, supports backup to Amazon S3 Storage Cloud. Andy
dan400007 Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Another vote for Yosemite, cheap and effective. A single license costing about £1000 can provide backup for Unlimited Windows Servers, SQL and Exchange
Soulfish Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Any one looked at Zamanda ? Zamanda is one of those OpenSource projects which now has a commercial product. A Linux based backup, with agents for MS Exchange, SQL and Sharepoint and more. Nice feature to eliminate off site tapes, supports backup to Amazon S3 Storage Cloud. Andy I got a quote from them back in September but waiting for this years budget before we start comparing products. The price I've got for various agents isn't too bad - certainly a lot cheaper than BE! 1
Arthur Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 I had setup a 6TB volume in RAID5 config yesterday (4 x 2TB disks), but that looked like it wasn't going to be enough, so I extended it even further. Out of interest, how much data are you backing up? 3TB?
bewlay51 Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 Hi there. We got rid of all tape backup now and use NAS / USB drives to backup to. I use Acronis backup and recovery 10 and it works like a dream. Easy to use, FAST and dead easy to restore a file, folder or whole server.
synaesthesia Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 Not many people using the RDX hard drive cartrdige based systems? Great in primaries at least - more than enough space to keep 5 weeks of 1 day backups one one cartridge, using a grandfather-father-son type backup system too, and don't need replacing unlike tapes. Guessing it's just a capacity thing for larger schools but im just interested
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