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Can anyone shed some light on this, I have read over it before.

 

Basically the government have come up with a scheme which gives you a minimum of 2k for a 10yearold+ car, when you trade in for a new one - in order to get older motors off the roads.

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The PR side of it is to get old cars off the road and help the enviroment. The realistic side of it is that they need to get the car industry moving again, so they're following the same stimulus that other EU counteries have introduced!
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It will be interesting however just how well this idea will work. The Government pay £1000 and the car manufacturer also pay £1000. The car industry are struggling like crazy as it is and they've already reduced prices of many new cars. In some cases, second hand cars are more expensive than new ones.

 

I personally don't know anyone with cars 10 years+ or more. Close to that requirement but not over.

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I knew i'd find something useful for that 8k sitting in the back of the sofa!

 

 

 

I'm sure keeping my old car is better than wasting all that energy to build a new one just to run on petrol again.

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The PR side of it is to get old cars off the road and help the enviroment. The realistic side of it is that they need to get the car industry moving again, so they're following the same stimulus that other EU counteries have introduced!

 

well, they've not tried very hard to dress it up as a 'help the environment' thing. It's main purpose it was made clear was in response to the success of similar schemes in parts of europe.

 

also, you really shouldn't talk about getting an industry or aspect of the economy 'moving again'....makes you sound like a nulab politcian. ;)

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£2k for a crap heap all sounds very good... but our childrens childrens childrens children will be paying for it for years to come :mad:

 

Also whats to stop someone from trading up using the scrap allowance, and then selling the new car a few weeks later? You could probably make a few quid

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In some cases, second hand cars are more expensive than new ones.

 

 

that sounds almost impossible on a like-for-like basis. Unless we're talking about select niche products or rare vehicles....but then hasn't that always been the case ?

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Basically, that's it in a nutshell.

 

sorry to split hairs, that's not quite it in a nutshell. As another poster has intimated, it's got naff all to do with getting old cars off the road, it's a parachute for the car industry.

 

And the point about the energy required to produce a new vehicle means the environmental benefits are dubious for replacing old with new.

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sorry to split hairs, that's not quite it in a nutshell. As another poster has intimated, it's got naff all to do with getting old cars off the road, it's a parachute for the car industry.

 

Fine, that's the official nutshell. I agree, there's a hidden agenda to do with getting car sales moving again, which I strongly disagree with.

 

And s/he has a name.

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Fine, that's the official nutshell. I agree, there's a hidden agenda to do with getting car sales moving again, which I strongly disagree with.

 

And s/he has a name.

 

why would you strongly disagree with 'stimulating' sales in the car industry..don't you want to save jobs ? woops, now i'm starting to sound like a nulab policitican.

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The guy off Radio 4's Moneybox program was saying at the weekend that some of the car manufacturers in the UK have actually increased their prices over the last few months in anticipation of this incentive coming in last week. Meet the Fockers.
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We run a gifted 1998 R Nissan Micra with 30k on the clock as our main car. It'd be anti environment to scrap it as it's lean on fuel and has plenty of life left in it.
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We run a gifted 1998 R Nissan Micra with 30k on the clock as our main car. It'd be anti environment to scrap it as it's lean on fuel and has plenty of life left in it.

 

Blimey you can't be doing much motoring then? I'd give anything to be able to walk or cycle to work rather than the 15 - 20k mileage I clock up each year just travelling to and from work :(

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You sort of know me!! Mine is 12 years old and counting. (that's apart from the 1972 Beetle and 1987 Mini on the driveway, but they don't count as they are classic cars!)

 

OK, one person with a car over 10 years :p

 

The guy off Radio 4's Moneybox program was saying at the weekend that some of the car manufacturers in the UK have actually increased their prices

 

Prices in general are definitely going up. It annoys me when politicians claim the cost of living is reducing. I was looking at the cost of memory earlier and compared it to invoices from late last year. There's quite a big difference!

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I knew i'd find something useful for that 8k sitting in the back of the sofa!

 

 

 

I'm sure keeping my old car is better than wasting all that energy to build a new one just to run on petrol again.

 

£8k? A kia Picanto comes in at £4195 base price, or a Chevrolet Matiz at £4315. Or if you want something a bit funky, a Smart fortwo pure starts at £4562, with the scrappage scheme. :) (Yes, I know, if you are anything but a single person this isn't plausible, just pointing out £8k is quite a lot....)

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This is just another useless idea from them... people who drive cars that are 10+ years old do so because they a) cant afford a new car b) aren't stupid enough to buy a new car.

 

My car is 15 years old, worth a dam site more than the £2000 scrappage money and would in no way help me buy a new car. My car doesn't quailify for it anyway being an import.

 

What fool would choose to buy a picanto, matiz or a smart, no one with any sense :)

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My 1999 Focus would be eligible, but with 35K on the clock and its reliability, we have no intention of replacing it until the MOT starts getting expensive (it passed this year's with flying colours). It's not the smartest looking car - "paintwork commensurate with age", but there's no rust!

 

In any case, we don't happen to have £8000 spare to buy another!

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I do actually need a new car but as someone has rightly pointed out. If i needed a new car and could afford one i would have bought one by now. My windows don't work after numerous attempts at fixing them, the Heating system doesn't work, keeps blowing cold. But the bit that does matter the engine is still running as smooth as the day i purchased it. It has around 137,000 miles on the clock and still passes MOTs like nothing.

 

So although i would like to update my '96 reg Honda Accord, it's reliability is making me hold on to it (and the fact i have no cash to buy a newer one)

 

It's a 2.0 litre so a bit bad on the environment but i was looking through a paper the other day and a 318 BMW i assume around the 2 litre mark was cheaper than a fiat panda :confused:

 

But overall i wouldn't buy a new car so i can't get the scrap deal anyway can i?

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What fool would choose to buy a picanto, matiz or a smart, no one with any sense :)

 

Waves hand - I own a Matiz (but, sadly, it's only 8 years old so I'm not getting a new one just yet :-)

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Quote from Witch 'You sort of know me!! Mine is 12 years old and counting. (that's apart from the 1972 Beetle and 1987 Mini on the driveway, but they don't count as they are classic cars!)

Anyone that owns a Beetle is ok with me. If you ever want to sell it am your woman! :)

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Quote from Witch 'You sort of know me!! Mine is 12 years old and counting. (that's apart from the 1972 Beetle and 1987 Mini on the driveway, but they don't count as they are classic cars!)

Anyone that owns a Beetle is ok with me. If you ever want to sell it am your woman! :)

 

 

The Beetle belongs to my 20 year old son - currently it has no wiring, one 'eye' and is lots of different colours (filler, rust, undercoat, green, black, white). He promises me that one day it will look beautiful again - apparently it was originally 70's blaze orange but is now Porsche green.

I do like it but it clutters up the drive a bit, especially as we now have the Mini as well, courtesy of my 18 year old son. It looks in much better nick but has a serious oil leak ATM.

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