bert113 Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 Full Details on the school e-teach site :- https://www.eteach.com/jobs?empNo=21656 Feel free to contact me via this forum if you have any questions .., closes 9am 8th December
bert113 Posted December 8, 2023 Author Posted December 8, 2023 So the advert closed this morning, no applications. In the most polite way possible, what are we doing wrong? or is it the schools market just can't compete with business for salaries and benefits ?
triggmiester Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 Your current advert for a PA to the Headteacher is a better salary, for what ultimately is a smaller skillset. Perhaps the same salary for TTO, instead of full time. I was 12 years as assistant IT manager in a Glos School, was always TTO as was the NM. IMHO it doesn't need to be a full time role. Either way I'd say you're £5k off the mark 1
kennysarmy Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 So the advert closed this morning, no applications. In the most polite way possible, what are we doing wrong? or is it the schools market just can't compete with business for salaries and benefits ? We advertised three times for an IT Techie post in Cheltenham and did so three times and only got 4 applicants across the adverts, only two were suitable for employment! 1
LeMarchand Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 So the advert closed this morning, no applications. In the most polite way possible, what are we doing wrong? or is it the schools market just can't compete with business for salaries and benefits ? As you've invited comment I hope this isn't against the forum rules but basically, yes. £24k = around £16k take home? Subtract rent and food/utilities from that and it soon dwindles. Didn't see the advert, but unless you could attract someone still living with their folks in the area it's not a wage that is going to make people think it's worth the move. I've been looking around half-heartedly myself, but most of the higher-paid EDU jobs would either involve moving house (don't wanna go through that unless it's a pay rise beyond my skill set) as a few quid extra/week isn't worth the hassle/extra commute. ATM it's only worth my moving if it's a no chance of being made redundant from school within walking distance. When I started, IT Tech jobs needed a much smaller range of skills/knowledge as there was always the LA to fall back on. Not like that any more. I realise that you are bound by MAT/LA/Governors/DfE decisions and haven't plucked a wage out of thin air, but I think techs are beginning to feel that they deserve better pay and schools need to realise that they are going to have to start paying for IT. 1
CHiLL Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) As @triggmiester pointed out, the salary for a semi-skilled job is simply too low. It's known that lower paid support staff are leaving the sector because they can earn more per hour stacking shelves at their local supermarket. I didn't read the advert, but assuming it's 37.5 hours a week at 52 weeks a year, that starts at about £11.85 an hour. You're putting them in line with basic admin, assistants, cleaners, etc, while presumably listing a number of experience required skills that the applicant must have. Edited December 8, 2023 by CHiLL 1
Brax Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) As you've invited comment I hope this isn't against the forum rules but basically, yes. £24k = around £16k take home? Subtract rent and food/utilities from that and it soon dwindles. Didn't see the advert, but unless you could attract someone still living with their folks in the area it's not a wage that is going to make people think it's worth the move. I've been looking around half-heartedly myself, but most of the higher-paid EDU jobs would either involve moving house (don't wanna go through that unless it's a pay rise beyond my skill set) as a few quid extra/week isn't worth the hassle/extra commute. ATM it's only worth my moving if it's a no chance of being made redundant from school within walking distance. When I started, IT Tech jobs needed a much smaller range of skills/knowledge as there was always the LA to fall back on. Not like that any more. I realise that you are bound by MAT/LA/Governors/DfE decisions and haven't plucked a wage out of thin air, but I think techs are beginning to feel that they deserve better pay and schools need to realise that they are going to have to start paying for IT.I'm pretty much in this situation (living at home) and saving what I can but actively looking for other roles out of education as I simply can't sustain this and to be able to even rent my own place in my area I need to be earning more. Edited December 8, 2023 by Brax 1
TheRobins Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Bit late to jump on, Litterally just north of you in Worcestershire. Was looking at a tech to help, but to get someone I could trust, can learn quickly and actually help and not be a hiderance would be looking 27k to 30k a year, just not sustainable at the moment. Also Gloucestershire is a rural area with poor transport links, start looking at cars and living costs its better to work in your local Spar shop . 2
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