Where to source music from?

[hardtailstar]

Hi All,

 

We are using music for various things. We want to move to a central place to download or use music from.

 

Does anyone use something like this.

 

Currently the teachers only use Youtube in lessons for music and with some music videos inappropriate for use in school i'd like to move away from this

 

Thanks in advance.

[Joanne]

google music

deezer

amazon music

spotify

[StevieM]

It depends on what you're after, but have you tried Audionautix.com? He's got a wide selection of royalty-free music that is free to download and use under Creative Commons License 3.0.

 

Obviously, you can't get the latest Ed Sheeran tracks or whoever, but if you just want some decent background music for presentations and such, it's ideal.

[hardtailstar]

google music

deezer

amazon music

spotify

 

Didnt think you can use any of those in schools.

[GuyJD]

Didnt think you can use any of those in schools.

you can but only if they are paid for by the school

[Joanne]

They do say no public performance. I don't think a classroom is public though...

[hardtailstar]

you can but only if they are paid for by the school

 

But they are personal use only from what ive looked into.

 

They do say no public performance. I don't think a classroom is public though...

 

We need music for performances too not just in lessons.

[Joanne]

We need music for performances too not just in lessons.

 

School will have to buy the albums then. CD styleeeeeeee. Or paid for download from either itunes or amazon or google or whatever.

[GuyJD]

But they are personal use only from what ive looked into.

So are CDs and itunes downloads unless you have a license, which I'm pretty sure schools (in England) do thanks to the government.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/copyright-licences-information-for-schools

[ollyyllo]

I thought it went like this

 

iTunes, spotify etc. can only be purchased by an individual and used for personal use, i.e individual accounts setup for each teacher (but credited from class/music budget?)

The agreement the government has then extends these rights so teachers can use this music in lesson for educational purposes

 

Or can we really just have one school account for iTunes and let all the teachers use it?

Edited March 24, 2017 by ollyyllo

[hardtailstar]

I thought it went like this

 

iTunes, spotify etc. can only be purchased by an individual and used for personal use, i.e individual accounts setup for each teacher (but credited from class/music budget?)

The agreement the government has then extends these rights so teachers can use this music in lesson for educational purposes

 

Or can we really just have one school account for iTunes and let all the teachers use it?

 

I cant find anything on these types of accounts being used in schools.

[Jollity]

They do say no public performance. I don't think a classroom is public though...

Spotify FAQ explicitly says no schools sadly.

 

We have allowed use of music from iTunes, but I am not sure that is strictly allowed - I think nearly all downloadable music is "personal, non-commercial use". We are signed up for various schemes for licensing music for public performance, but I am am not sure how those are supposed to interact with the EULAs you agree to on the music download services.

 

musopen.org is a good source of creative commons and public domain classical recordings.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Jollity

[Alis_Klar]

I would argue that if you have a PRS licence and you pay for Spotify and don't use it at home etc then you could argue that there is no commercial servce that caters to your needs and therefore you make every effort to try to be legal.

 

https://www.soundtrackyourbrand.com/spotify-business

There is a Business version of Spotify but it is aimed at shops who want to Schedule a Playlist remotely for background music. Not great for schools who would for assemblies and lessons want to play a track on demand. Bizarrely it seems YouTube is the more legal route here!

 

The Spotify for Education initiative hasn't progressed in 2 years it seems from the official website https://www.spotifyforeducation.com/

[LeMarchand]

Obviously, you can't get the latest Ed Sheeran tracks or whoever, but if you just want some decent background music for presentations and such, it's ideal.

 

If you wanted some decent music, surely you wouldn't be after the latest Ed Sheeran track?

 

Back on topic, it would be great to get clarification on this. The GOV provided license seems to trump the EULA on physical media, but does it do the same for streaming services/downloaded media? Pretty sure I read that whilst Netflix haven't pursued any school prosecutions they seem to think that their service is not licensed for schools.

[CAM]

I'm a big fan of CCMixter which holds music tracks and samples under Creative Commons (although you will want to check the licences, some are non-commercial but many are just asking for attribution to source).

[Ashfold]

Your PRS or equivalent license covers you for playing a song or film so you can not be pursued for copy write violation.

 

The TOS for the streaming site however does not allow you to use it in a school so they can come after you for the TOS violation. I know that in the USA this can be a felony but I am not sure where it falls in UK law but do you want to be the IT tech who got their school sued or worse?

 

The reason Netflix et al who be upset about you showing a film in school from their service is that they are not licensed for this and could loose their licenses if the film studio or distributor determined that they where breaching their contract.

[mavhc]

Sourcing of music

Please note the following guidelines on the use of electronic formats of music. The following sources can be used

 

Legally purchased downloads on condition that the usage complies with the Digital Rights Management (DRM) rules accompanying the download. For example, if the download is restricted to being held and played back from a specific PC or MP3 player, the public performance has to be sourced from that PC or MP3 player. If the download rules allow the track to be burned to a CD, that CD can then be used for public performance in the same way as any conventional commercial CD.

 

From Copyright & Schools: photocopy, scan, screen or broadcast copyright resources in classrooms - simple advice for teachers

 

Should work for Itunes then

[DCUK6]

From what i remember when i asked before, you cant just upload the mp3 to a network share as people can copy that.

 

If you do have music you would have to host on a onsite music streamer. Ive given a few free versions a go with varying success.

 

Cant remember the full details but it was mentioned that you have to log how many plays a track has received.

Il see if i can find my old post.

[DCUK6]

http://www.edugeek.net/forums/general-chat/181547-house-music-how-allow-students-music-ripping-purchased-music-cds.html

[mavhc]

It depends on whether it's for education or entertainment, the standard school licence only provides for educational use, ie in a music lesson to talk about styles of music. Here everyone just streams their own spotify to their headphones.