[joke] School 1977 v School 2007

[Ryan]

Compare, if you will...

 

 

 

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

 

1977 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up mates.

 

2007 - Police are called, Armed Response Unit arrives and arrests Johnny and Mark. Mobiles with video of fight confiscated as evidence. They are charged with assault, ASBOs are taken out and both are suspended even though Johnny started it. Diversionary conferences and parent meetings conducted. Video shown on 6 internet sites.

 

 

 

Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.

 

1977 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given 6 of the best. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

 

2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Counselled to death. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra funding because Jeffrey has a disability. Drops out of school.

 

 

 

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him the slipper.

 

1977 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

 

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. Psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mum has an affair with the psychologist. Psychologist gets a promotion.

 

 

 

Scenario: Mark, a college student, brings cigarettes to school

 

1977 - Mark shares a smoke with the school principal out on the smoking area.

 

2007 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from School for drug possession. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.

 

 

 

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers, puts them in a model plane paint bottle and blows up an anthill.

 

1977 - Ants die.

 

2007 - MI5 and police are called and Johnny is charged with perpetrating acts of terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

 

 

 

Scenario: Johnny falls during break and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.

 

1977 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.

 

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy. Becomes gay.

Edited March 12, 2008 by ZeroHour

[MkII]

I'm the Mark in the 1977 version and it's all true!

[flashsnaps]

lmao all very true!

[witch]

Except that I think by 1977 schools had got all soppy and the cane/slipper etc was banned - I think it was in about 1971 or so - unless you are talking about private schools of course.

[tech_guy]

I went to a state secondary school and when I left in 1980 the cane/slipper was still being used as a punishment. So does this mean they were breaking the law and I can claim £zillions in compensation for the trauma/psychological damage it's left me with?

 

:-)

[trickstar]

Really good! Made me laugh

[Dos_Box]

Except that I think by 1977 schools had got all soppy and the cane/slipper etc was banned - I think it was in about 1971 or so - unless you are talking about private schools of course.

 

 

I got caned in about 1980 in my junior school. In fact a whole bunch of us did for nicking another kids football because he wouldn't let us play with it!

[K.C.Leblanc]

It wasn't banned till 1986,

 

I started school in 1987.

[trickstar]

Think they should bring it back, some of the kids behaviour at our school is shocking!

 

I went to a good school in London, and to come here and see what some of this lot get away with - is unbelievable!

[SpuffMonkey]

I think that the real problem started when failure to achieve at school stopped being the student's responsibility and became the school's. At that point you cease to have any usable sanctions as every failure is a poor reflection on the school rather than on the students within it.

[MkII]

Except that I think by 1977 schools had got all soppy and the cane/slipper etc was banned - I think it was in about 1971 or so - unless you are talking about private schools of course.

 

Mainstream sch in Leicester in 1977 - still used the cane & slipper then

[Joedetic]

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and [...]. Becomes gay.

 

That one made me laugh.

[contink]

I think that the real problem started when failure to achieve at school stopped being the student's responsibility and became the school's. At that point you cease to have any usable sanctions as every failure is a poor reflection on the school rather than on the students within it.

 

Damn it I'm taking this semi-seriously...

 

Actually it all went Pete Tong when nobody was made responsible for their own actions and everyone was made responsible for everyone elses. Moral of story, don't get a job, don't do anything and you won't get in trouble because you can always sue someone who is...

 

Ain't life grand...

[AntiThesis]

I think that the real problem started when failure to achieve at school stopped being the student's responsibility and became the school's. At that point you cease to have any usable sanctions as every failure is a poor reflection on the school rather than on the students within it.

 

Yahtzee, we have a winner

 

It's even more pronounced here at the moment where we're actually given instruction to not fail kids unless it is absolutely unavoidable (i.e. pad the marks). No detention unless it doesn't inconvenience the child, sport coaches or parents

[laserblazer]

I think that the real problem started when failure to achieve at school stopped being the student's responsibility and became the school's. At that point you cease to have any usable sanctions as every failure is a poor reflection on the school rather than on the students within it.

 

With attitudes like yours still lingering in schools, no wonder the kids are like they are

 

I agree with you 100%.

Edited June 3, 2009 by laserblazer

[AntiThesis]

Heheh.

 

Caught. I think truly that the issue is more complicated - a part of it is that kids are given no responsibility for their failures. Also parents and teachers Like I say, if 1 kid fails in your class, quite possibly that kid is responsible. If 34 fail, you're a bad teacher.

[AntiThesis]

Heheh.

 

Caught. I think truly that the issue is more complicated - a part of it is that kids are given no responsibility for their failures. Also parents and teachers Like I say, if 1 kid fails in your class, quite possibly that kid is responsible. If 34 fail, you're a bad teacher.

[SpuffMonkey]

Heheh.

 

Caught. I think truly that the issue is more complicated - a part of it is that kids are given no responsibility for their failures. Also parents and teachers Like I say, if 1 kid fails in your class, quite possibly that kid is responsible. If 34 fail, you're a bad teacher.

 

You're right of course - though if the 34 fail because of the constant disruption caused by 5 or 6 naught kids who the school insist must be in your classroom....??

 

At the risk of sounding like an old fogey - I think there's a bit of a loss of vision on what qualifications are for - they are to sort the sheep from the goats - whether the goats are simply lazy or lack the basic academic nous to pass - I don't see the point of them if everyone passes, as it tells their future employers/educators little about their real ability/attitude.

 

Sometimes I read my posts and wonder if I shouldn't cancel my Guardian order and get the Mail instead

[kearton]

I got caned in about 1980 in my junior school. In fact a whole bunch of us did for nicking another kids football because he wouldn't let us play with it!

Early in the first term in my first year of High School (in NZ) in 1986, a boy tapped the boy next to him (who was one of my mates) on the head with a biro during a Science lesson and they BOTH got the cane for that. Not surprisingly, that teacher didn't have (m)any other problems with the new 3rd formers from then on. And if I was bad at home, my father used to give me "the strap" (it was half of his father's old leather shaving strop) around the backside. One of my mates used to get "the wooden spoon". Another (unlucky) school chum used to get "the jug cord". We all turned out OK.

If I ran the country the cane would be reintroduced! I wonder what Jeremy Clarkson's thoughts are on the subject?.....

[Batman]

Sometimes I read my posts and wonder if I shouldn't cancel my Guardian order and get the Mail instead

 

Depends if you read it or not. I can't read the Guardian without puking... That said, the Mail is just a tabloid imo!

[K.C.Leblanc]

Depends if you read it or not. I can't read the Guardian without puking... That said, the Mail is just a tabloid imo!

 

Agreed, although I'm sure it was invented as a broadsheet for people with short arms the Mails is a very dull tabloid. At least the Sun and the Mirror are so bad it's funny.

 

How you considered the Torygraph?

[Batman]

How you considered the Torygraph?

 

If I read a paper I usually read the Times. It's got nothing to do with political persuasion, I just don't find the other papers interesting.

 

There's bias in every newspaper, article, tv programme. You can't avoid it - just have to know it's there.