Popular Post sonofsanta Posted January 28, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Oracle deprecates the Java browser plugin, prepares for its demise | Ars Technica Oracle, which acquired Java as part of its 2010 purchase of Sun Microsystems, has announced that the plugin will be deprecated in the next release of Java, version 9, which is currently available as an early access beta. A future release will remove it entirely. Except, of course, it's not all balloons and Bucks Fizz for us, is it, 'cos we'll still have to find a way to run this garbage--garbage that will now stop receiving security updates--in order to support random Maths packages from 2001 that one teacher refuses to move from. I should be delighted. Instead, I am scared. Edited January 28, 2016 by sonofsanta 10
Davit2005 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 It will for years too come because of all the hardware that unfortunately uses java applets etc to administer. Thus continiuing the head ache for IT admin and management.
mikeprice Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Except, of course, it's not all balloons and Bucks Fizz for us, is it, 'cos we'll still have to find a way to run this garbage--garbage that will now stop receiving security updates--in order to support random Maths packages from 2001 that one teacher refuses to move from. I should be delighted. Instead, I am scared. I share your pain - although I would be happy if the random software here was as recent as 2001 I have some installation CDs that have Windoze 95 as the most up to date system they will run on! But the are 'essential to Teaching and Learning'
DJ-1701 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 At least it means further java app creation is less likely.
sonofsanta Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 It will for years too come because of all the hardware that unfortunately uses java applets etc to administer. Thus continiuing the head ache for IT admin and management. Ha, yes--I have a pair of HP Brocade fibre switches that require a specific version of Java running on XP to administer. I live in fear of any configuration problems.
Steve21 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 So every single ProCurve? Harr. Curious to know in reality though is there any way for them to stop the old plugins? As what just stops them using an older version of java that allows it? Or will it more be the browsers disabling the ability? Steve
Davit2005 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Ha, yes--I have a pair of HP Brocade fibre switches that require a specific version of Java running on XP to administer. I live in fear of any configuration problems. Same here, both Brocades require earlier versions and even then some browsers are not happy. Then add to that our Blade System HP C7000 iLO Java plugins
Sagima Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 I share your pain - although I would be happy if the random software here was as recent as 2001 I have some installation CDs that have Windoze 95 as the most up to date system they will run on! But the are 'essential to Teaching and Learning' If it doesn't run on the currently supported versions of software then the department in question has to find a replacement in their next budget. We don't support things that old - SMT seemed to think that was perfectly reasonable when I took it to them about 5 years ago. Usually there's a free html5 or something version of it knocking around on the internet. A few times the response has been - I have a powerpoint that shows basically the same thing. Twice the response has been "oh we haven't used that for years" - then why is it on your software request list every summer then? We currently only support making things work on the last two versions of java/flash/silverlight, ie11 and the latest chrome, 64bit windows 7 sp1 (we dropped support for osx this year) Only works on IE10 of earlier - gets replaced or dropped Requires java 1.4 (or indeed 8u30) - gets replaced or dropped only works on windows xp/vista - gets replaced or dropped 16 bit software of any kind - gets replaced or dropped
speckytecky Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 As someone who has big time struggled with Jave and can't currently access the interface of HP Procurve 2910 al switches as a result what in reality is this going to mean. Can anyone explain in simple terms pretty please?
Steve21 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 As someone who has big time struggled with Jave and can't currently access the interface of HP Procurve 2910 al switches as a result what in reality is this going to mean. Can anyone explain in simple terms pretty please? In terms of IT at the worst you'll need an old computer/browser/java install to be able to use them. In terms of staff/students, hahahaha all your old rubbish software no longer works with new updates Steve 1
Sagima Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 As someone who has big time struggled with Jave and can't currently access the interface of HP Procurve 2910 al switches as a result what in reality is this going to mean. Can anyone explain in simple terms pretty please? My take on it was that what is now the java web app would now just be baked into the browser - I think they claim it's something new but "Java Web Start Technology" will probably end up being basically the same thing only getting updates in edge/ie11 via windows update and via browser updates via chrome/firefox 1
Boredguy Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 We've got to keep Java going over here as the gate control system has a java interface for us to update stuff over the network, plus some of the switches, and the Ruckus client map. Never mind that some exam boards always want it installed now for their software to work. Bah *puts bubbly away* 1
DJ-1701 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Oracle has some advice on how to best migrate away from the plugin for these organizations. The way I am reading the migration from plugin document, JavaFX WebView will be an alternative to access this content (Inverted Browser Control).
CyberNerd Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 I use a local install of JWS to launch Cisco ASDM, IBM management tools etc. It doesn't need to run in a browser plugin if you have the jnlp file.
GRitchie Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Does this mean I won't be able to manage my beautiful Netgear switches anymore and I'll be forced to make the heartbreaking move to HP? (Hear my irony. HEAR IT!!) 1
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