X-13 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Burned up from the inside and was cooked alive in her own body. TBF, she took 4 times the amount she should have [if it's the one I'm thinking of] Dose is 2 tablets [a day?], she took 8.
Garacesh Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 A college student took diet pills containing DNP which is used in explosives. Burned up from the inside and was cooked alive in her own body. And Mercury will kill you if you ingest it (and can even be absorbed through the skin) but it's still used in vaccines. Just because something is used for one purpose, doesn't mean it's even remotely related to its function. Full disclaimer, I actually have no idea what DNP is or exactly how it's used in explosives, but my point still stands.
elsiegee40 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 TBF, she took 4 times the amount she should have [if it's the one I'm thinking of] Dose is 2 tablets [a day?], she took 8. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-32384152 Police said the tablets were being tested, but are believed to contain dinitrophenol, known as DNP, which is a highly toxic industrial chemical. The drug was in her system, there was no antidote, two tablets was a lethal dose - and she had taken eight
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 TBF, she took 4 times the amount she should have [if it's the one I'm thinking of] Dose is 2 tablets [a day?], she took 8. 2 tablets is still a lethal dose according to the BBC. It boggles the mind that someone would be that obsessed with losing weight that they'd risk random online junk to do it. We all know that there's no such thing as a miracle way to lose weight, and we all know that buying random stuff off the net isn't a great idea when it comes to your health. So why do people do it?
sparkeh Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 We all know that there's no such thing as a miracle way to lose weight, and we all know that buying random stuff off the net isn't a great idea when it comes to your health. So why do people do it? Because some people believe that there is a miracle way to lose weight and buying random stuff off the net is a great idea.
pcstru Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 It boggles the mind that someone would be that obsessed with losing weight that they'd risk random online junk to do it. We all know that there's no such thing as a miracle way to lose weight, and we all know that buying random stuff off the net isn't a great idea when it comes to your health. So why do people do it? “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” Mark Twain
X-13 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 2 tablets is still a lethal dose according to the BBC. I stand [well, sit] corrected. I read about it on the way in this morning. I remembered "dose" and forgot "lethal".
Tesla Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Saying that, someone on my other half's facebook has recently posted up about buying some "breast enlargement" pills....very sceptical.. (it's deffo her posting, not been phished...)
sparkeh Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Actually my last comment doesn't accuratley reflect my thoughts. There are immense pressures on young girls to be thin, just look at the numbers on eating disorders Sometimes people take risks when they feel under pressure. Doesn't mean they they are stupid, just desperate.
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Actually my last comment doesn't accuratley reflect my thoughts. There are immense pressures on young girls to be thin, just look at the numbers on eating disorders Sometimes people take risks when they feel under pressure. Doesn't mean they they are stupid, just desperate. It isn't just girls any more. There's been a huge rise in boys and men suffering with eating disorders over the last few years. In 2012, the NHS saw an increase of admissions in boys of 66% on the year before. We need to put in place a more supportive environment to prevent these things happening. Banning photoshopping of magazine images would be a good start.
abillybob Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Saying that, someone on my other half's facebook has recently posted up about buying some "breast enlargement" pills....very sceptical.. (it's deffo her posting, not been phished...) Yup it's worrying. People think that everything nowadays can be fixed with some sort of pill found off the internet. Diet Pills don't actually do anything and non are proven to work, despite what the manufacturers claim and because they're normally not even medicine they're food supplements they don't have to be checked. My girlfriend who's small busted which does knock her confidence was looking into breast enlargement pills, I explained to her they don't do anything and that they can most of the time be quite harmful. She listened but whether or not she'll care what I say is another matter. Anything that is sold to us to consume I believe should be checked properly no matter what it is and should have tests to ensure that the item we're consuming does what they advertise it to do, if not they should be banned. It isn't just girls any more. There's been a huge rise in boys and men suffering with eating disorders over the last few years. In 2012, the NHS saw an increase of admissions in boys of 66% on the year before. We need to put in place a more supportive environment to prevent these things happening. Banning photoshopping of magazine images would be a good start. I feel the opposite I wish I could put on weight. I'm a skinny fellow and no matter how much I eat I never put on a pound. I even went on a protein diet when I started working out, protein, carbs and the odd veg was all I ate and I was told to never stop eating, I was literally buying a whole chicken breast to eat throughout the day all day including my breakfast, lunch and dinner which where all high in protein. Did this for a month never put on a pound. Edited April 21, 2015 by abillybob
Garacesh Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 It boggles the mind that someone would be that obsessed with losing weight that they'd risk random online junk to do it. We all know that there's no such thing as a miracle way to lose weight, and we all know that buying random stuff off the net isn't a great idea when it comes to your health. So why do people do it? Because we're internet-savvy. We understand how many scam sites are out there and how a well-designed website can look legitimate yet can still be dodgy. Your average layman, though, is a little more trusting. A well-designed website with 'customer testimonies', carrying whatever brand association it can (is there a dietary body like this is for, say, skin?). The average user often takes things at face value and doesn't question it, therefore "Approved by $Organisation", "Here's what our customers have to say:" and "30 day money-back guarantee!" are taken by the average person to be a safe investment. I recently went to Morrison's and purchased some milkshake powder stuff for after working out. Did I research its ingredients and whether it was medically approved before I took it to the till? No. I trusted its location to speak on behalf of its properties, and that's what we do every time we buy something, more often than not*. That's all she did. She just trusted the wrong place. It's all fine and dandy to say "We all know there's no miracle weight loss" but, obviously, she didn't. * Apart from when you buy something with a dubious uncertainty, such as the non-Sony PS2 controller I bought off eBay last Friday.
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I recently went to Morrison's and purchased some milkshake powder stuff for after working out. Did I research its ingredients and whether it was medically approved before I took it to the till? No. I trusted its location to speak on behalf of its properties, and that's what we do every time we buy something, more often than not*. That's all she did. She just trusted the wrong place. It's all fine and dandy to say "We all know there's no miracle weight loss" but, obviously, she didn't. I think I must be odd then. I'd've researched it before buying! I have a problem with high cholesterol at the moment, so was looking for ways to reduce it - and on the shelves of supermarkets are those little bottles of yoghurt drink with plant stanols and sterols in them. Rather than just buy them, I went and had a look to see whether they actually do anything!
sparkeh Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) It isn't just girls any more. There's been a huge rise in boys and men suffering with eating disorders over the last few years. In 2012, the NHS saw an increase of admissions in boys of 66% on the year before. We need to put in place a more supportive environment to prevent these things happening. Banning photoshopping of magazine images would be a good start. Oh absolutely, I just mentioned girls due to subject of the article being female. We could do with following France's lead: France bans super-skinny models in anorexia clampdown | Reuters Also, a second law means that Photoshop images require a label identifying them: http://stgist.com/2015/04/anorexia-france-law-photoshopping-2747 Edited April 21, 2015 by sparkeh
pcstru Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 You can buy cooper bracelets, magic magnetic wristbands and other quack paraphernalia at many dispensing chemists. When suppliers who people *have* to trust and respect to make sensible, rational, science based decisions on their behalf fill their shelves with such rubbish, what hope is there for 'ordinary' people?
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 You can buy cooper bracelets, magic magnetic wristbands and other quack paraphernalia at many dispensing chemists. When suppliers who people *have* to trust and respect to make sensible, rational, science based decisions on their behalf fill their shelves with such rubbish, what hope is there for 'ordinary' people? That is very true. Quackary is everywhere. It isn't helped that our health service is controlled by people who believe in homoeopathy.
witch Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I don't believe in homeopathy and I am a huge skeptic... But Since I started wearing a copper bracelet I have definitely had much less rheumatism - none really - and there is some evidence for the copper leaching out of the bracelet and into the body. It definitely doesn't work on osteoarthritis though, sadly.
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Quite probably placebo. That said, there's nothing wrong with that! Placebo is a legitimate way of dealing with pain! http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/10October/Pages/Copper-bracelets-and-arthritis.aspx Copper bracelets and magnetic wrist straps - News and events, The University of York
Garacesh Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 I think I must be odd then. I'd've researched it before buying! I have a problem with high cholesterol at the moment, so was looking for ways to reduce it - and on the shelves of supermarkets are those little bottles of yoghurt drink with plant stanols and sterols in them. Rather than just buy them, I went and had a look to see whether they actually do anything! I'd consider calling you 'over-cautious', but realistically a problem with high cholesterol should be tackled with the consultation of a medical professional. I'd have just asked my doctor "Well, what do you recommend I do to reduce it?" when he told me it was too high.
witch Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Quite probably placebo. That said, there's nothing wrong with that! Placebo is a legitimate way of dealing with pain! Copper bracelets and arthritis - Health news - NHS Choices Copper bracelets and magnetic wrist straps - News and events, The University of York I haven't got rheumatoid arthritis though and as I said, it doesn't work on my osteoarthritis, only on my common or garden rheumatism
localzuk Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I'd consider calling you 'over-cautious', but realistically a problem with high cholesterol should be tackled with the consultation of a medical professional. I'd have just asked my doctor "Well, what do you recommend I do to reduce it?" when he told me it was too high. Oh, I have done. I'm on statins. But its so outrageously high, he said "do anything that'll help, like lose weight, change diet, look at supplements". So, I made sure what I was doing was actually going to do anything. I've lost 2 stone in weight, nearly cut cheese out of my diet entirely, reduced red meat and started having those yoghurt drinks (studies show they work best if you have one after your main meal, leading to a small (7-10%) reduction in cholesterol). I haven't got rheumatoid arthritis though and as I said, it doesn't work on my osteoarthritis, only on my common or garden rheumatism The mind is a strange and wonderful thing. Edited April 21, 2015 by localzuk
Garacesh Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 Can anything really be considered "common rheumatism" when rheumatism itself is a generic term for "joint stuff"?
LeightonJames Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 It definitely doesn't work on osteoarthritis though, sadly. That's a shame, was looking into purchasing one myself as I am developing Osteoarthritis in my wrist following a very old Football injury.
pcstru Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Since I started wearing a copper bracelet I have definitely had much less rheumatism - none really - and there is some evidence for the copper leaching out of the bracelet and into the body. Placebo's 'work'. The question is, does a copper bracelet work better than a placebo? If not, then it is impossible to say that it is the copper bracelet that is 'working' - you might equally use homoeopathy, acupuncture or astrological worm pointing for the same effect. I can't find any research that suggests copper has any effect beyond placebo, but there has been research that finds no correlation.
witch Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I would agree except that it works for me. Rheumatism is generally used for just common or garden aching bones, usually caused by changes in temperature, rather than Rheumatoid Arthritis in which joints swell and stiffen. I agree that there is no evidence for copper helping any form of arthritis - and as I have it I would really really like it to. It is a very pretty bracelet so what the heck
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