rich_tech Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I didnt realise until recently that our seat was actually a marginal, 504 majority last time, though its been labour down here for as long as I can remember for both seats, the east is safe, our isnt. interesting time ahead in run up, I notice we have had a few door knockers already the last couple of weeks.
pcstru Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) The thing is, there are going to be problems which are easy to solve; then there are going to be problems which are hard to solve. How easy or hard a problem is to solve doesn't equate with your "queue". My criteria simply helps me decide what is fair. I don't think how difficult a problem is has much bearing on whether it should be tackled although it might be significant in how it is tackled. Edited April 14, 2015 by pcstru
sparkeh Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Which may be a reasonable model of what happens but is it more important to raise money efficiently or fairly? Very good point, to which I can't really give an answer. My only counterpoint is would it be fair to have less Government revenue to spend on public services for those that need them due to tax policies that are seen to raise money fairly? Not an easy issue to deal with (as Governments have shown).
flyinghaggis Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Election 2015: David Cameron pledging right-to-buy extension - BBC News Thatcher policy resurrection. Guess Dave's hoping to party like its 1979 come election day Edited April 14, 2015 by flyinghaggis 1
sted Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Election 2015: David Cameron pledging right-to-buy extension - BBC News Thatcher policy resurrection. Guess Dave's hoping to party like its 1979 come election day because selling off cheap rentable housing isnt what spiked house prices esp as last time iirc councils couldnt replace them a policy we all still pay for with grossly inflated house prices good for banks as they lend more money good for nobody else
LeMarchand Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 because selling off cheap rentable housing isnt what spiked house prices esp as last time iirc councils couldnt replace them a policy we all still pay for with grossly inflated house prices good for banks as they lend more money good for nobody else Plus a fair proportion of the houses bought eventually end up in the hands of developers/landlords as people find that they have over-extended. Apparently in London over a third of sold properties are now being rented back by councils! Councils are renting sold Right to Buy homes, says report - BBC News
Andrew_C Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 The cynic in me wonders if Posh Dave is hoping for the same thing as Maggie. People with a mortgage can't afford to strike...
sparkeh Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Interestingly, the Housing Associations are questioning the legality of the Tories' revived Right to Buy scheme. Most HAs are charities and as such are not allowed to dispose of their assets in this way. Also, if they are forced to sell their assets at below market rates, who is going to compensate the HAs? Who is going to build the 1:1 replacements that the Tories have promised? Just another shiny shiny with no substance to dangle before the electorate.
SovietRussia Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Interestingly, the Housing Associations are questioning the legality of the Tories' revived Right to Buy scheme. Most HAs are charities and as such are not allowed to dispose of their assets in this way. Also, if they are forced to sell their assets at below market rates, who is going to compensate the HAs? Who is going to build the 1:1 replacements that the Tories have promised? Just another shiny shiny with no substance to dangle before the electorate. Legality? They would have to pass a law to get the scheme through anyway (or some secondary legislation) so legality would be covered. Morally dodgy.
sparkeh Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Legality? They would have to pass a law to get the scheme through anyway (or some secondary legislation) so legality would be covered. Morally dodgy. How would they pass a law? HAs are charities or private companies. Could they pass a law forcing Tesco to sell off its assets at below market value? They can it to LAs because they are part of the state. Initial noises from the HA sector are that they would put up a strong legal defence against this.
localzuk Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 How would they pass a law? HAs are charities or private companies. Could they pass a law forcing Tesco to sell off its assets at below market value? They can it to LAs because they are part of the state. Initial noises from the HA sector are that they would put up a strong legal defence against this. Yes, they could do exactly that. All laws of the land are defined in Parliament - even EU ones, as we implement them to be a part of our own legal system. So, yes, they could pass a law forcing Tesco to sell off assets. Just like they have laws which forced Lloyds TSB to sell off assets. The other option they have is they could nationalise things, and do it directly themselves. The difficulty in the UK now is that any and all laws have to comply with EU laws, else the EU can prosecute us. Ultimately though, that ability to be prosecuted is still voluntary, and as such we can leave the EU...
sparkeh Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Yes, they could do exactly that. All laws of the land are defined in Parliament - even EU ones, as we implement them to be a part of our own legal system. So, yes, they could pass a law forcing Tesco to sell off assets. Just like they have laws which forced Lloyds TSB to sell off assets. The other option they have is they could nationalise things, and do it directly themselves. That is a different matter. The European Commission ruled that the Government purchasing a stake in the bank qualified as state aid so had to sell a portion of the business. As far as I know, no new laws were passed to make this happen (but happy to be shown evidence to the contrary). I highly doubt that any proposed law to force a private business to sell off assets below market value would ever have a chance of making it on to the statute book. And can I just take a sec to point out that this is Tory party who are all about the free market (don't things change in the chase for votes ) Edited April 14, 2015 by sparkeh
localzuk Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 The Tory party are not about free markets. They are about interfering in markets, just in a different way to Labour, and a different way to Lib Dems. They aren't really libertarians.
DavePa Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Not got the time to read all 17 pages of this one but looking at https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz I should vote for the same party I always do although It's surprisingly close to some of the other main parties who I wouldn't vote for in a million years!
sparkeh Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 The Tory party are not about free markets. They are about interfering in markets, just in a different way to Labour, and a different way to Lib Dems. They aren't really libertarians. Depends on which part of the party your are looking at, there are still plenty of Thatcherite free marketeers in the Tory party. Although there has been a big influence from the One Nation Conservatives of late, the Right to Buy was a flagship Thatcher policy so its revival speaks volumes about the free marketeers influence in the party.
featured_spectre Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Not got the time to read all 17 pages of this one but looking at https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz I should vote for the same party I always do although It's surprisingly close to some of the other main parties who I wouldn't vote for in a million years! This is how I came out :| Parties you side with... 80% Labour on economic, education, domestic policy, healthcare, environmental, and transportation issues. 80% UK Independence on foreign policy, domestic policy, immigration, and social issues. 80% Conservatives on foreign policy, immigration, social, and environmental issues. 62% British Nationals on foreign policy, immigration, and healthcare issues. 61% Liberal Democrats on economic, education, immigration, healthcare, environmental, social, and transportation issues. 59% Green on healthcare and environmental issues. Regional parties removed as I can't vote for them...anyone got a 3 sided object I can roll?
LeMarchand Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 anyone got a 3 sided object I can roll? Roll Dice Online
flyinghaggis Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) I can't imagine the tories or any party would ask any company or charity to sell off assets at less than market value. Presumably they'll simply offer a percentage discount towards the purchase cost for any tenant wishing to buy their property with this subsidy being funded by General taxation (you and me!)? Edit: apparently the Conservatives say that the policy will be paid for by making local authorities sell their more valuable council houses when they become vacant? Edited April 14, 2015 by flyinghaggis
speckytecky Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 For me the Green Party on Education is an absolute winner The Green Party | Home Scrap tuition fees and take the disastrous Academies back into LEA control have got to be very positive steps. It looks to me like they would actually let teachers get on with the job of teaching as well and stop the continual interference that is so unsettling under both Labour and the Tories. - a large percentage of those politicians tend to use Public Schools for their offspring anyhow!
Quackers Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 take the disastrous Academies back into LEA control As soon as that i saw that in the Greens manifesto they were an instant write off for me, i like we are an Academy, getting rid of what are basically dire services from LEA which before hand you were mostly locked into as they top sliced your budget to pay for them, at one point i wondered if raving loony had rebranded to Greens reading some of their policies.
localzuk Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I'm a fan of schools having more local control, but at the same time the systems for monitoring them is not good enough at the moment. It took from October until last week for a local academy that was put in special measures to have an outside academy chain come in to change things!
tmcd35 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Edit: apparently the Conservatives say that the policy will be paid for by making local authorities sell their more valuable council houses when they become vacant? So the Tory's haven't yet worked out what caused the housing bubble in the first place? Talk about stoking the fire!
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