Hefferzzzz Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 So will anyone be staying up to watch the possible end to union or just wait for the cold light of day to get the result? John Snow's swingometer is going to be pretty boring for this referendum plus no exit polls, looks like the commentators will be playing cliché bingo as they wait for results. Will wait until I wake up I think! Despite the statement that there will be no challenge to the result, I think that there will be a lot of bitterness coming out from the Yes campaign and supporters if it doesnt go how they want. The only thing to look forward to is whichever way is goes, Alex Salmond is going to be in a hole.
ZeroHour Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Just to say regarding Shetland, I am from there so I know a little about the place, the whole "we will go indy" is a pile of tosh and would never happen realistically. The local council are fools who have squandered the previous oil fund and I know very few with confidence in them to run Shetland (or a tap) let alone Shetland as a country. Most of this has been suggested by the local Tory rep's tbh. 1
penfold_99 Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Just to say regarding Shetland, I am from there so I know a little about the place, the whole "we will go indy" is a pile of tosh and would never happen realistically. The local council are fools who have squandered the previous oil fund and I know very few with confidence in them to run Shetland (or a tap) let alone Shetland as a country. Most of this has been suggested by the local Tory rep's tbh. If scotland voted yes would they stay with scotland or remain in the uk?
CAM Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 John Snow's swingometer is going to be pretty boring for this referendum plus no exit polls, looks like the commentators will be playing cliché bingo as they wait for results. So...he knows nothing?
ZeroHour Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 If scotland voted yes would they stay with scotland or remain in the uk? They would threaten and negotiate to try and get a refresh of the old oil fund they squandered away. I cant remember the exact figure but the SIC funded a new ferry for Foula (around £15m I think), with custom pier only to take delivery to find out it failed all sea worthiness tests and was liable to capsize.
SovietRussia Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) ...new base in either England or Wales (there is nowhere suitable in Northern Ireland).... Exactly why there isn't any Nuclear Power Stations their too, they have a large resource of fresh water cooling but the threat from IRA stopped construction and even any planning. There are few active Nuclear Power Stations in Scotland (Most of them are currently being decommissioned by the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority (Who is an executive department of the Dept of Energy and Climate Change)) - if Scotland goes independent they will be stuck potentially with non-working stations that require clean-up, thats already a big chunk of money allocated before they even start to plan a new welfare, education and health policies. But with their nuclear free policies, are they going to remove their currently active and working power stations that -> "Nuclear Power accounts for approximately 50% of Scotland's electricity demand. Torness generates about 1200MW and Hunterston 800MW" (18 January 2008) Edited September 18, 2014 by SovietRussia
ZeroHour Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 if Scotland goes independent they will be stuck potentially with non-working stations that require clean-up, thats already a big chunk of money allocated before they even start to plan a new welfare, education and health policies Pretty sure that would be important for rUK too lol rUK is not that far away. Some light relief: Michael McIntyre "Legal Tender" Frankie Boyle (warning although much more moderate than usual its still NSFW) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9rZAchZg4 1
localzuk Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Pretty sure that would be important for rUK too lol rUK is not that far away. Germany isn't far from France but they don't have an input into their nuclear decommissioning processes...
ZeroHour Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Germany isn't far from France but they don't have an input into their nuclear decommissioning processes... Pretty sure they would have something to say if it was going to be left to rot and they had put them there.
localzuk Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Pretty sure they would have something to say if it was going to be left to rot and they had put them there. They being themselves when they were part of the UK... Considering that have MPs and would have been heavily involved in the commissioning process...
sparkeh Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Wow. Head of YouGov gas called it for the No campaign based on today's poll (54% No - 46% Yes) - That's a big shout. Exciting stuff
penfold_99 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 If I heard another regional reporter call it for one side then say we are going to have to wait to get the result, my remote is going to get thrown.
Trapper Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 It'll be a narrow nay. Looks at Inverclyde - 86 votes difference
featured_spectre Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) So far it's a no by around 2000000 votes... Edited September 19, 2014 by featured_spectre
featured_spectre Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 A resounding no by nearly 4million votes overall
localzuk Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 The comments sections on news sites are, let's just say, a bit bitter this morning. The cyber-nats dont appear to be very calm in defeat so far. I'm pretty glad that Scotland is staying with us. We're stronger together, just like we're stronger in the EU.
Vasriel Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Yes 45% No 55% 5% difference is a close result. Edited September 19, 2014 by Vasriel
penfold_99 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Yes 45% No 55% 5% difference is a close result. A 5% difference is massive. 28 council out of 32 voted no, that's a landslide. Edited September 19, 2014 by penfold_99
featured_spectre Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 some of you need to go to school.... 10% is the difference between 45% and 55%
pcstru Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Whatever anyone thinks of the result, an 85% turnout nationally should tell us something about the normal state of affairs at elections. People will vote if they know their vote counts. We need to do something about that. 4
featured_spectre Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Whatever anyone thinks of the result, an 85% turnout nationally should tell us something about the normal state of affairs at elections. People will vote if they know their vote counts. We need to do something about that. Very true. Wasn't this the highest turn out percentage wise....ever....for a vote?
localzuk Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Absolutely. People feel remarkably divorced from the national decision making processes in my view. I'd be pro-federalisation personally. Give us all closer control over more of our lives.
pcstru Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Very true. Wasn't this the highest turn out percentage wise....ever....for a vote? Compared to national elections since 1945, yes.
Gatt Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 I breathed a huge sigh of relief this morning when I heard the result on the radio! Interesting that Highland has yet to declare - they were supposed to declare around 4am - Recount?
Gatt Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 Alex Salmond looking a bit more like his namesake in this photo:
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