creese Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I saw this on Facebook this morning. I wish people here would realise/accept Teamviewer is not free in schools.
jonnykewell1 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 that's a good point, will join.me still work if it uses the log me in client? I haven't seen anything from join.me about this. Our new ISP will provide us with VPN access when we switch over so it isn't too bad, but for now we need an alternative.
sonofsanta Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 I thought join.me was only for situations where you wanted to share your screen with someone/control a computer with someone else sitting at it. If you wanted it running all the time to connect to the office from home, that was LogMeIn... Are there no other free alternatives?
mats Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Aw, that sucks. Although I guess $49pa isn't a bad deal - we've had it good for a while as far as logmein is concerned.
Sdrawkcab Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 TightVNC does all this stuff for free, but it requires considerably more configuration than LogMeIn does. Rather than having a nice web front end etc, you have to manually start the session by entering IP address of the server you want to connect to. It does let you start a VNC session on an unattended machine which is already running TightVNC server, though, which is what most of you guys seem to want.
Oaktech Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 We are using splashtop here. I have a personal account with remote access subscription that the school pays for (it's £1.22 a month) and works really well.
sonofsanta Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 TightVNC does all this stuff for free, but it requires considerably more configuration than LogMeIn does. Rather than having a nice web front end etc, you have to manually start the session by entering IP address of the server you want to connect to. It does let you start a VNC session on an unattended machine which is already running TightVNC server, though, which is what most of you guys seem to want. Does that need a public IP for the unattended machine though? The simplicity of LogMeIn was that it worked through the NAT on the firewall without complication, and I don't want to start educating staff on "TightVNC into this server, then MSTSC into your machine..."
Sdrawkcab Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Does that need a public IP for the unattended machine though? The simplicity of LogMeIn was that it worked through the NAT on the firewall without complication, and I don't want to start educating staff on "TightVNC into this server, then MSTSC into your machine..." Unfortunately yes. You can set which port it listens on though, so I guess you could do some funky port forwarding from one of your public-facing gateways for each user instead of having each workstation have a public IP. Like I said, it's more work than LogMeIn but it is 100% free even for commercial use.
sonofsanta Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 We are using splashtop here. I have a personal account with remote access subscription that the school pays for (it's £1.22 a month) and works really well. Unfortunately the Personal plan says "for individual non-commercial use", and the Terms of Service state "Splashtop Personal is for non-commercial use only*, i.e. use it to access your personal computers for non-work related purposes." The footnote there states "* This only applies to users who registered for a Splashtop Account after October 31, 2013. If You registered for Your Splashtop Account on or before October 31, 2013, you are free to use the Splashtop Personal service for commercial purposes, with the exception of Windows and Mac Splashtop client apps." - so whilst you might be alright, the rest of us won't
CommodoreS Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I am quite disgusted they have given such short notice and on such a busy week with BETT happening. Although have also noticed Logmein has recently been downloading an EXE client to remote in, rather than being purely web based like before. Has anyone here tried Centrastage and thoughts? Looks like it is £1 per machine and includes a remote support client and other tools. Only problem seems to be you need to install a client to access other clients and you cannot remote in through a web browser.
Domino Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Windows VM + SSL Cert + publishing rule: What is a Remote Desktop Gateway server? control level of access by user or machine groups, allow/disallow folder mounting. No extra client software needed for windows, options for linux/mac. Honestly, we've got 3 that have NEVER required attention aside from cert renewal. Just works. 2
edutech4schools Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I use team viewer to access al the servers (not the free version) and I have remote desktop gateway for all the staff.
sted Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I am quite disgusted they have given such short notice and on such a busy week with BETT happening. Although have also noticed Logmein has recently been downloading an EXE client to remote in, rather than being purely web based like before. Has anyone here tried Centrastage and thoughts? Looks like it is £1 per machine and includes a remote support client and other tools. Only problem seems to be you need to install a client to access other clients and you cannot remote in through a web browser. yes ive used centra stage lln blocked log me in at one bit so we moved to that and every one of our company hated it. As often as not your remote window would start postage stamp sized and iirc wasnt just go to a web page had to have client installed on both ends. Wouldnt recomend it. Just trying teamviewer and it seemed to work via ict4 leeds but just looked again its gone red and now back to green again hmmmmmmmm
sonofsanta Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Windows VM + SSL Cert + publishing rule: What is a Remote Desktop Gateway server? control level of access by user or machine groups, allow/disallow folder mounting. No extra client software needed for windows, options for linux/mac. Honestly, we've got 3 that have NEVER required attention aside from cert renewal. Just works. Does that require CALs? Do you know if they're included in EES licensing, if so? We have a spare public IP and it's easy enough to chuck a VM up.
Domino Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Yes it does, as for the EES question I can't really help there - anyone else know? 1
Boredguy Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Remote Desktop CALs are not part of EES, but we purchased 100 a few years back when we setup our VPN and Terminal Services on Windows 2003 boxes, so as long as I use a work laptop I can connect in to the servers from home as it's covered for the windows CAL's via EES, and the RD CAL. All our servers have Remote Desktop enabled since it's easier to use it during the working day from the comfort of our own desk instead of standing in the noisy (and chilly at times) server room. 1
sparkeh Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Windows VM + SSL Cert + publishing rule: What is a Remote Desktop Gateway server? control level of access by user or machine groups, allow/disallow folder mounting. No extra client software needed for windows, options for linux/mac. Honestly, we've got 3 that have NEVER required attention aside from cert renewal. Just works. Thanks! Just set this up in about 5 mins and it works brilliantly 1
logmein Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Here's some free alternatives to LogMeIn, looks like TeamViewer is the best choice: http://mdssolutions.co.uk/blog/3-free-alternatives-to-logmein.aspx
sparkeh Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Here's some free alternatives to LogMeIn, looks like TeamViewer is the best choice: http://mdssolutions.co.uk/blog/3-free-alternatives-to-logmein.aspx Repeat: Teamviewer is not free for schools!
Gatt Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Repeat: Teamviewer is not free for schools! Given how many times this has been mentioned - we should probably lock these threads??
logmein Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Repeat: Teamviewer is not free for schools! I get that corporately it isn't, however connecting to your private home pc from school still is free which some may find useful.
rich_tech Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I see on their forums its gone down like a lead balloon, couldn't really expect otherwise though when they pull the plug with Zero warning of it happening, at least I can connect to my home machine with Teamviewer, as thankfully we have a decent RDP setup for me and my line manager and a web portal that lets anyone else in to work online as they need.
themightymrp Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Do you think that with enough bad feelings on the forums they may change their minds? That would be nice
Domino Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 No? "oh no, we'll lose all that money we weren't getting..." 1
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