Spotify Web Player

[FishCustard]

Anyone know what URLs and ports the Spotify Web Player uses?

 

I'm trying to get it to work behind the LGfL's filtering and firewall system (all I currently get is 'we are unable to stream tracks to you at this time' or a message to that effect when I try to play anything). I thought I'd ask before I bust out the packet-capture software.

[Arthur]

The main URLs the web player accesses are spotify.com, cloudfront.net and spotify.edgekey.net. All HTTPS (so port 443).

 

http://i.imgur.com/b7FczS0.png

 

Source: chrome://dns

Edited September 14, 2013 by Arthur

[FishCustard]

Thanks - I've unblocked those and it still doesn't work though. Anyone managed to get this working on the LGfL?

[Edu-IT]

Arthur - how does that Chrome DNS work?

[Arthur]

I've unblocked those and it still doesn't work though

I had a quick look through WireShark and the audio is being served through RTMP (port 1935 etc.).

 

http://i.imgur.com/sTZxf4P.png

[Arthur]

Arthur - how does that Chrome DNS work?

If you visit chrome://dns in Google Chrome it will list all of the URLs its internal DNS prefetcher accesses.

[jonspurs]

Hi All,

Just to update you lot, Spotify are trying a new streaming method. Point your users to:

https://play.spotify.com/?http=1

 

Just tested and works fine here now :-)

[Dickens]

Been having a nightmare time with the App recently trying to allow a path through Smoothwall, glad I found this, the web version works a treat - why didn't I think of looking here first !

[jonspurs]

Lol yea I try to find web apps alternatives instead of troubleshooting desktop apps. Soon Skype will be web based :-)

Heads up - Spotify web stopped working for us. They changed something and I had to set an allow unauthenticated policy for a URL.

[Willott]

@jonspurs - I'm currently trying to get this working - do you know what URL you had to set unauthenticated for?

[jonspurs]

@jonspurs - I'm currently trying to get this working - do you know what URL you had to set unauthenticated for?

 

Hi,

I looked and we have these unblocked/auth exceptions:

 

play.spotify.com

spotify.com

cloudfront.net

audio-mp3-fa.spotify.com

play.spotify.edgekey.net

 

Hope that helps,

Jon

[sparkeh]

So what's changed to allow Spotify to be used in school? The EULA doesn't seem to have changed?

[3s-gtech]

It can be used, with caveats (we had a discussion about it a while back). IIRC, it's fine to have it installed, and for staff and students to sign in with their own accounts. However, it's not fine to use those accounts to broadcast (e.g. to a class) or to create 'school' accounts. Basically, it's still 'personal use', just within the school. Whether that fits your requirements, AUP etc is another matter.

[sparkeh]

It can be used, with caveats (we had a discussion about it a while back). IIRC, it's fine to have it installed, and for staff and students to sign in with their own accounts. However, it's not fine to use those accounts to broadcast (e.g. to a class) or to create 'school' accounts. Basically, it's still 'personal use', just within the school. Whether that fits your requirements, AUP etc is another matter.

Yes I remember the discussion, there was an email from Spotify saying that we couldn't use it. Just wondering if anything had changed since then:

http://www.edugeek.net/forums/educational-software/174628-spotify-education-yes-we-can.html#post1496506

 

Thanks for emailing us back.

 

Currently, Spotify is not allowed to play in public spaces (even if you use your own personal account). However, we do understand where you're coming from. We’ll be sure to pass your suggestion (Spotify for Education in UK) onto the right folks here at Spotify.

 

If you think this is also something other Spotify customers would think is a good idea, be sure to add it to our ideas board. Those who also support your idea can then vote on it or add to the conversation.

 

We’ll keep everyone updated on the status of your idea.

 

We hope this clears things up. Let us know if you have other questions. We'll be here to help you out http://awscdn.cdngeek.com/images/smilies/smile.png

 

Have a lovely day,

[3s-gtech]

It gets murkier - within school is definitely not a public space, and by 'play in public spaces' do they mean 'out loud'? My understanding was headphones+user's own account=fine.

[sparkeh]

It gets murkier - within school is definitely not a public space, and by 'play in public spaces' do they mean 'out loud'? My understanding was headphones+user's own account=fine.

Hmm not straight forward is it :S

[jonspurs]

All this talk but come on, I don't see any 'music police' around...

[jmak]

It gets murkier - within school is definitely not a public space, and by 'play in public spaces' do they mean 'out loud'? My understanding was headphones+user's own account=fine.

 

Hmm not straight forward is it :S

From http://www.ppluk.com/I-Play-Music/Businesses/Why-do-I-need-a-licence/

 

What is the definition of 'playing recorded music in public'?

A PPL licence is required when recorded music, including radio and TV,is played in public. There is no statutory definition of 'playing in public' (also sometimes referred to as 'public performance') but the UK courts have given guidance on its meaning and ruled that it is any playing of music outside of a domestic setting – so, for example, playing recorded music at a workplace, public event or in the course of any business activities is considered to be 'playing in public'.

[3s-gtech]

Playing for one user to hear or for anyone to hear is the difference, because it changes whether it's being 'broadcast'. Otherwise, employees at a warehouse listening to music via headphones plugged into their phones would need a license - or even just walking down the street ('in public')!.

[sparkeh]

All this talk but come on, I don't see any 'music police' around...

I don't see many police of any kind around but I still obey the law.

[jonspurs]

I don't see many police of any kind around but I still obey the law.

 

Lol fair enough...do you also stick to all speed limits and not go 1mph over?

My point was that it's not like we're stealing music - as in downloading MP3s illegally or something, but that this Spotify 'grey area' debate is a bit 'meh'...