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It always makes me laugh at how much work IT people have to do to complete a simple task as a librarian just policing the room... A simple 'No you do not use the computer' should easily be sufficient for the classroom management. IT should be a tool to assist.. not the primary control method - what happens when it fails? That said - we use AB tutor control in the classrooms for demo's and lock outs and restricting internet access should that be needed. For about £100 a go and no client license its not that bad. We deploy the client via active directory so we can control each of the pc's across the domain (about 700).

Anyone have any spare invites? Maybe we could then invite Edugeek'ers back in to this as and when each person gets more? I would like an invitation to this and would glady donate them back to an edugeeker fooby

I think it might be an idea to set passwords to words that people really wouldnt want as passwords, im thinking passwords such as bad swear words etc. I would think that people might want to change these. Or default passwords such as "vCF&£g45n" that might wind ppl up enough to change. Or potentially secure enough to leave (as long as its undocumented) fooby

Edugeek cannot distribute it, is linking to it externally allowed? Or will this too ensue the Wrath of Bill G? fooby

As far as I know CSCCMD cannot be distributed online :-( fooby

AFAIK AB Tutor does not work on a TS. I have only so far seen netop that works on a TS system fooby

Cool Thanks - I have used autoIT a little bit, but found making a GUI app in VB a lot quicker. I have built a new active directory toy recently and it works well I think with autoit if it doesnt do it there is some extension that adds the bits you need fooby

I have just recently started learning VB6 and have found it pretty powerful in some toys I have made for active directory. How come you chose AutoIT over VB? fooby

Perhaps this might be of use. http://internet.cybermesa.com/~bstewart/passdlg/ fooby

I found that limitlogon just caused too many problems, we were forever "resetting" the logons of students here. Either it wasnt logging the logoff event or it was just stuffed. fooby

At this site here there is a listing for schtasks for windows 2000. The schtasks isnt really the important part - anything that will schedule a task will complete the requirement. there is a utility called JT from MS themselves that should do the job http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/files.html AFAIK shutdown.exe is on both O/S's fooby ... yes it should be illegal since you have a license for windows 2000 on that box, not XP and all its utils ... even if they do work. best to err on the side of caution.

In a startup script (on our image that is cloned / or in a group policy startup script) REM Delete all tasks (not needed, butin case some evil person already has) schtasks /delete /tn * /f REM Create a task for this computer to shut itself down at 6pm schtasks /create /sc daily /st 18:00:00 /tn "Shutdown at 1800" /tr "shutdown -s -t 60 -c \"This computer is scheduled to automatically shutdown at this time. You have 60 seconds to save all your work and logoff.\"" /ru system This way theres no "I need a list of pc's" or "use this tool just search google all day" these are all in windows already and just need to be run once per machine - or placed carefully in a startup script. (Note, this is used on WinXP clients, with 2000 YMMV) fooby

There is another program (shareware / trial) called Ad-Infinitum.a google of ad-infinitum active directory should pull it up. Thirty day trial should be enough. fooby

We use wireless laptops with SIMS.net Lesson Register installed (Lesson Monitor is being de-preciated and no longer supported as far as I know). Or you place PC's in the gym's etc Or you get the PE teachers to do a paper register then enter it on the system later (YMMV) fooby

We have the names displayed here, also its firstname lastname i.e Joe Bloggs not Mr Bloggs. Never really been an issue here (apart from the odd teacher not understanding how a student can email them :S - "its a global email system, they can email china if they want") fooby

Simple, our Principal received stupid emails. The users were removed from email access, letters home, severe de-b*ll*cking - no one does it any more. fooby p.s. I also then added the restriction of the students not sending to staff.

P.S Yes its a chassis with a PCI card that goes in any server you want to quadruple the storage available. fooby

The Norco unit we saw was good due to cost, this will slot in to a server nicely. The CyberStore nas units we have been quoted on were too expensive (work on a figure of £1300 ish including drives and you can see that they are too much.) If you think you can help / suggest let me know. Four terabytes for as close to £1000 is what we are aiming for (I am close ) fooby

Excellent glad its sorted. fooby

Hi We have this also, I think the software locally was left as whatever permissions, but for the data share all need read / write access. that worked here (but means people can write to that share) A data$ (dollar share) will help with this. since it will hide it from being browsed (if your students can even get that far) fooby

http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=ME-FD4096HS wow! fooby

I have found these http://www.norcotek.com/DS-1220.php 12 bay esata storage array boxes online (similar devices to this thread http://edugeek.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5509) , and we are looking to purchase. However they are pretty impossible to get hold of in the uk. Has anyone else seen any of these type things? Even 8 port esata boxes would be good. thanks for your help fooby

@echo off rem check for sims folder, we dont really need this check anyway if exist "c:\program files\sims" goto :itsthere ELSE :inst rem map a lovely drive net use q: \\tcc-admin\f\public\sims q: cls echo.******************************************************************* echo.******************************************************************* echo.***************** Installing SIMS.net... Please wait for ********** echo.***************** this screen to close before continuing ********** echo.******************************************************************* echo.******************************************************************* rem run setups rem i havent actually added the code to delete the sims folder, butits easy rem this should do it, maybe need the /s switch though del "c:\program files\sims\sims.net" q:\setups\SIMSInfrastructureSetup.exe -a {QuietMode} q:\setups\SIMSapplicationsetup.exe /s {QuietMode} {NoServerApps} [sIMSDirectory]="F:\public\SIMS\" [sIMSDotNetDirectory]="C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net" q:\setups\SIMSMAnualSetup.exe /s {QuietMode} {NoServerManuals} [sIMSDirectory]="F:\public\SIMS\" [sIMSDotNetDirectory]="C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net" q:\setups\SIMSAMPARKSetup.exe /s {QuietMode} {NoServerApps} [sIMSDirectory]="F:\public\SIMS\" [sIMSDotNetDirectory]="C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net" xcopy q:\connect.ini "c:\program files\sims\sims .net\" /h /y rem run permissions fixer call q:\simsperm.bat tcc-nt4\staff goto :end :itsthere echo.******************************************************************* echo.******************************************************************* echo.************** SIMS.net appears to be already installed *********** echo.**************** Press Y to delete and reinstall this ************* echo.******************************************************************* echo.******************************************************************* echo. choice /C YN /M "Press Y to delete and re-install SIMS.net, or N to cancel this installer." if errorlevel 2 goto :end if errorlevel 1 goto :inst rem choice was copied from windows server 2003 box here. :end echo SIMS.net installation cancelled. net use q: /d /y I hacked about with your cmd script and came up with this. This would not be logon / startup scripted and would be used to reinstall at the computers console while you are stood there. fooby P.S Simsperm.bat needs to be run from your sims server with the working directory set there, the file contains this. SIMSPerm.bat is called in my cmd script with the variable for my staff group here "tcc-nt4\staff" this would be different if your domain was "cheese" and the user group called "ham"... ie "cheese\ham" @echo off if "%1" == "" goto :usage SubInAcl /FILE "%WINDIR%\SIMS.INI" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /KEYREG HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes /GRANT=%1 SubInAcl /KEYREG HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID /GRANT=%1 SubInAcl /KEYREG HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Interface /GRANT=%1 SubInAcl /KEYREG HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\TypeLib /GRANT=%1 if "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%" == "" goto :skip_simsapps SubInAcl /FILE "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\SIMS Applications\*.*" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /FILE "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\SIMS Applications" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /SUBDIRECTORIES "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\SIMS Applications\*.*" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /SUBDIRECTORIES "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\SIMS Applications" /GRANT=%1=F goto :after_profile_warning :skip_simsapps echo. echo ** WARNING: The Environment Variable for All Users Profiles is not set on this pc, echo ** cannot grant permissions for the SIMS Applications Program Folder. echo. :after_profile_warning if "%ProgramFiles%" == "" goto :skip_simsdir SubInAcl /FILE "%ProgramFiles%\SIMS\*.*" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /FILE "%ProgramFiles%\SIMS" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /SUBDIRECTORIES "%ProgramFiles%\SIMS\*.*" /GRANT=%1=F SubInAcl /SUBDIRECTORIES "%ProgramFiles%\SIMS" /GRANT=%1=F goto :after_simsdir_warning :skip_simsdir echo. echo ** WARNING: The Environment Variable for the Program Files Folder is not set on this pc, echo ** cannot grant permissions to the SIMS Application Folder. echo. :after_simsdir_warning goto :end :usage echo. echo "Usage simsperm [domain]\ or simsperm [domain]\" echo. :end

oh.... (insert quick google search) .... try this http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/9e6f74bb-7138-4a9b-989d-ef646b4b72921033.mspx?mfr=true

you could delete the quick launch folder from eachof their profile folders? \\server\share\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch fooby