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Hi, Laptops are going to reinstalled way after summer and staff will have used their new profiles on the workstations. Ive tested this and your correct it just converts the current profiles to local ones. Ive set this enabled now so i think we are good to go!!

That easy! I think i have been over complicating it in my head.. I think i may have found it: Computer Configuration\Admin Templates\System\User Profiles\Only Allow local User Profiles "If you enable this setting, the following occurs on the affected computer: At first logon, the user receives a new local profile, rather than the roaming profile. At logoff, changes are saved to the local profile. All subsequent logons use the local profile." Wonder what will happen to the current roaming profiles cached on the laptops when i enable this! I guess the only way to see is to test it! Thanks

Hi, We are moving to Windows 7 over the summer. Staff will all have fresh profiles. Laptop upgrades to 7 are going to be staggered after the holiday as staff say they are in use over the holiday period. Laptops are a mix of xp and 7. Currently staff use roaming profiles, their profiles roam from workstation to workstation and also to their laptops etc.. I would like to stop this and keep their laptop profiles seperate or even non-roaming. Ive often seen wallpapers set on laptops get carried in their profiles to school pcs etc. Dont want our nice fresh profiles bloated out when they bring their laptops back in after the summer. Is there a way to disable roaming profiles completely on these staff xp/7 laptops and keep profiles roaming on school machines? The laptops are in a completely different OU etc. Ive seen you can set a different roaming profile location for different computer accounts but I think this is limited to win7. Even with a loopback group policy setting the roaming profile for each section (fav/desktop/appdata) wont competely disable roaming will it? Any advice please?

Think they get paid to do it mate. They mark random students work not linked to their employed school. Maybe it could be compared to me bringing in someones home Laptop to repair while at work?

I was told that Scoris have a fix and have submitted it to Oxford exam boards? They need to approve any changes. Maybe sorted in the next release? Would like to see the AUP regarding not to be used at school/work?

After a lot of testing, ive gone for option 3... Ive knocked up a log on script that will copy all the teachers current desktop items and favorites and copy them to their N: drive in the correct folders. There is also a 30sec wait to allow the log on to finish and settle down before its starts the copy. This can be run before the profiles are redirected to the new locations. Next time they log in if the desktop folder is already there the script will stop to avoid copying over and over... Assuming the home drive is N: and that is where your are redirecting both to there: on error resume next Set wshShell = WScript.CreateObject( "WScript.Shell" ) strUserProfile = wshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings( "%USERPROFILE%" ) Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") wscript.sleep(30000) '30 second source = strUserProfile & "\Desktop" dest = "N:\Desktop" source2 = strUserProfile & "\Favorites" dest2 = "N:\Favorites" If objFSO.FolderExists("N:\Desktop") then Wscript.Quit Else objFSO.CopyFolder source, dest, overwrite = False objFSO.CopyFolder source2, dest2, overwrite = False End if

Thats what I found in testing. It wouldn't fill the screen and also they would suddenly get a black background even though the wallpaper is applied as you can see it in the preview view in control panal/Personalisation.

Thankyou! Just out of curiosity where do you store yours? I would rather they all get loaded on mass from a share on a NAS array than server/netlogon?

Just looking at our teacher/student wallpapers that get rotated termly. They are all around 2meg in size stored in Netlogon and saved as BMP. If 90 students log in first thing thats 180meg copied over the network. I remeber wasting a good part of a morning trying to use a 230k JPEG wallpaper but failed miserably. Before I waste any more time, can someone else on vanilla network please confirm its possible? Any other gp settings needed? Active desktop etc Thanks in advance

Thankyou ! Now sorted, Just checked and we had only removed the recycle bin from the desktop. so just also added: User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer - "Do not move deleted files to the Recycle Bin"

Exact same here Ben, but ive found that a hidden recycle bin gets created on the server in the desktop folder in their homedrive. Apparently MS say it happens to all redirected folders? Does no-one use option 4 even though the recommended setup from ms?

Thanks, Technically I cant see why 3&4 would be any slower than 1. They are both just redirecting from a folder on the same server etc. Nothing gets copied on log on (i think? Correct?) Will try and do some testing/timing in the morning. Unless maybe the addition of the %username% causes a delay at some point?

Thanks Ben, So that's option 3? Do you have a problem with the recycling bin? Do staff see the "desktop" in there home drive.? Does the start menu loading from c: really make a difference to login times?

So Dave, you are using option 1 and moving to option 2? Why not go for option 3 or 4?

Hi Gatt, We are currently looking into desktop redirection. Could you please give reasons for not recommending the above? What would you recommend?

Currently staff have roaming profiles. Their desktop items get saved back to thier roaming profile. When users use their desktop as a dump for files, logging on around the school can take alot longer. The way I see it theres four options: 1) One fixed redirected desktop for all users (just like students) 2) Desktop stays roaming in their profile 3) Desktop is redirected to their homedrive. 4) Desktop is redirected to a dedicated desktop share on the file server. What do you guys do please? Option one is a little limiting, we currently using option two but that causes log in times and network strain. Option three is being tested now and does work (but everything deleted goes to a recycle bin that they can see/empty. Option 4 might a better option as they cant accidently delete the "Desktop" folder in their homedrive? ?? Am I right in thinking that only option 2 actually copies all the files to the local machine on logon? Thanks in advance.

Sorry for delay.. We have four public folders that staff wanted not only in their public folder favourites but also in the main top favourites. In this script they are: Head's Notices Weekly Tutor Focus Daily Bulletin Rewards & Sanctions But im sure you could change it to your calender and strip the others out. This script is for 2010 and 2013 as it needs the users email address in the public folder address. This first script waits for outlook to open before calling the script that add the favourites. I left the first script link enabled for a few weeks until everyone had the favourites stored and then link disabled it. Outlook_Watcher_Script.vbs Set objShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell") strComputer = "." Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2") Set colMonitoredProcesses = objWMIService. _ ExecNotificationQuery("Select * from __InstanceCreationEvent " _ & " Within 1 Where TargetInstance ISA 'Win32_Process' AND " & _ "TargetInstance.Name = 'Outlook.exe'") Do While True Set objProcess = colMonitoredProcesses.NextEvent objShell.Run "\\server\netlogon\scripts\Set_PublicFolders_2010.vbs" Loop 2010/2013 - Set_PublicFolders_2010.vbs 'Function to get email address" Function GetAddress() On Error Resume Next Dim objSysInfo, objUser Set objSysInfo = CreateObject("ADSystemInfo") Set objUser = GetObject("LDAP://" & objSysInfo.UserName) GetAddress = objUser.EmailAddress End Function wscript.sleep(4000) '4 second Const olPublicFoldersAllPublicFolders = 18 Const olFavoriteFoldersGroup = 4 Dim olkApp, olkSes, olkFolder Set olkApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set olkSes = olkApp.GetNameSpace("MAPI") 'Change the profile name on the next line' olkSes.Logon "Outlook" On Error Resume Next 'Change the folder name on the next line. Repeat the next two lines for each folder you want to add.' Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\All Public Folders\Head's Notices") olkFolder.AddToPFFavorites Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\All Public Folders\Weekly Tutor Focus") olkFolder.AddToPFFavorites Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\All Public Folders\Daily Bulletin") olkFolder.AddToPFFavorites Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\All Public Folders\Rewards & Sanctions") olkFolder.AddToPFFavorites Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\All Public Folders\Urgent Staff Notices") olkFolder.AddToPFFavorites 'Change the folder name on the next line. Repeat the next two lines for each folder you want to add.' Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\Favorites\Head's Notices") AddFavoriteFolder olkFolder Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\Favorites\Weekly Tutor Focus") AddFavoriteFolder olkFolder Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\Favorites\Daily Bulletin") AddFavoriteFolder olkFolder Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\Favorites\Rewards & Sanctions") AddFavoriteFolder olkFolder Set olkFolder = OpenOutlookFolder("\Public Folders - " & GetAddress() & "\Favorites\Urgent Staff Notices") AddFavoriteFolder olkFolder olkSes.Logoff Set olkApp = Nothing Set olkSes = Nothing Set olkFolder = Nothing WScript.Quit Sub AddFavoriteFolder(olkFolder) ' Purpose: Add a folder to Favorite Folders.' ' Written: 5/2/2009' ' Author: BlueDevilFan' ' Outlook: 2007' Const olModuleMail = 0 Const olFavoriteFoldersGroup = 4 Dim olkPane, olkModule, olkGroup Set olkPane = olkApp.ActiveExplorer.NavigationPane Set olkModule = olkPane.Modules.GetNavigationModule(olModuleMail) Set olkGroup = olkModule.NavigationGroups.GetDefaultNavigationGroup(olFavoriteFoldersGroup) olkGroup.NavigationFolders.Add olkFolder Set olkPane = Nothing Set olkModule = Nothing Set olkGroup = Nothing End Sub Function OpenOutlookFolder(strFolderPath) ' Purpose: Opens an Outlook folder from a folder path.' ' Written: 4/24/2009' ' Author: BlueDevilFan' ' Outlook: All versions' Dim arrFolders, varFolder, bolBeyondRoot On Error Resume Next If strFolderPath = "" Then Set OpenOutlookFolder = Nothing Else Do While Left(strFolderPath, 1) = "\" strFolderPath = Right(strFolderPath, Len(strFolderPath) - 1) Loop arrFolders = Split(strFolderPath, "\") For Each varFolder In arrFolders Select Case bolBeyondRoot Case False Set OpenOutlookFolder = olkSes.Folders(varFolder) bolBeyondRoot = True Case True Set OpenOutlookFolder = OpenOutlookFolder.Folders(varFolder) End Select If Err.Number <> 0 Then Set OpenOutlookFolder = Nothing Exit For End If Next End If On Error GoTo 0 End Function

Sorry that should read "adds the calender" to the public folder favourites. Then adds it to the main "Mail favourites"

We are doing a 2nd larger trial with admin staff over the next 6 weeks. We are on 2007 so its a big jump. Dependant on how the next 6 weeks goes we will be upgrading all computers over the summer when we move to windows 7. With the smaller trial the usability comments werent very positive. But if m$ listen and add a few more themes in SP1 this would be a vast improvement.

I have one that should do mate. Will post when I get back. It waits for outlook to be launched and then adds public folder favourites to the public folder favourites and then add these to the main favourites. You could get it to do just the last but. Its vbs. Tim

Thanks for the info. On checking our agreement we too are staff only. The staff purchase sounds alot better/easier for everyone than KMS etc. Quick question, what happens if a staff member who purchased office leaves/retires/etc ? Do we ask for anything like the key or media back or need to inform anyone? We also have Windows 7/8 in our agreement, can they also purchase this? Would be a bargain to purchase a pc without OS and then buy win7 for £8.95 too! Thankyou!!

As anyone set this up? Our EES agreement allows staff and students to install on their own home machines while employed or studying with us. Obviously we do not want to open our kms server to the web so I thought they could connect with a vpn and then be able to activate? What do other schools do? Im not giving our MAK key to students! Or staff.

Hi, Could you please elaborate on that for me please? Wds - vm Nas storage - physical raid array I reimaged an ict suite today, I started them all off at the same time and it took 5-7 min for them to do the OS install section where it is actaully copying the wim from the nas so im not too worried about multicasting right now.

Still no joy.. Do you have a database connected? I might try the "linked deployment share" and have two synced up again.

Sorted Dot net 4.5 added all the latest patches from windows update and it now works on the server 2012 install! Thanks for the help earlier Nick.