X-13 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I'd like to see them try and make a conviction on it - I'm sure over half the court room (probably judge included) will have MP3 players chock full of ripped CD's! Apple stopped putting DRM on music. They're being sued over it. [and have been since 2004 [i think 2004... may be 2006...]]
andyturpie Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Good shout, lets not forget the Sony rootkit debacle as well.
nicholab Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I don't really get i tunes as I got a radio and music or speech comes out of that!! 1
tommej Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Say what you want about apple but itunes was a great step in the right direction. Steam is also a good example the movie industry should follow. 1
tommej Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Apple stopped putting DRM on music. They're being sued over it. [and have been since 2004 [i think 2004... may be 2006...]] All music on itunes has been drm free since 2009. I don't think they're being sued over it, feel free to provide a source though. 1
X-13 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) All music on itunes has been drm free since 2009. I don't think they're being sued over it, feel free to provide a source though. From 2007 - Lawsuit because DRM forces you to use Apple devices for music. [Or makes it REALLY awkward to play it anywhere else.] Apple uses FairPlay DRM [Which they developed] which works like this: FairPlay-protected files are regular MP4 container files with an encrypted AAC audio stream. The audio stream is encrypted using the AES algorithm in combination with MD5 hashes. The master key required to decrypt the encrypted audio stream is also stored in encrypted form in the MP4 container file. The key required to decrypt the master key is called the "user key". Each time a new customer uses iTunes to buy a track, a new random user key is generated and used to encrypt the master key. The random user key is stored, together with the account information, on Apple’s servers, and also sent to iTunes. iTunes stores these keys in its own encrypted key repository. Using this key repository, iTunes is able to retrieve the user key required to decrypt the master key. Using the master key, iTunes is able to decrypt the AAC audio stream and play it. When a user authorizes a new computer, iTunes sends a unique machine identifier to Apple’s servers. In return it receives all the user keys that are stored with the account information. This ensures that Apple is able to limit the number of computers that are authorized and makes sure that each authorized computer has all the user keys that are needed to play the tracks that it bought. When a user deauthorizes a computer, iTunes will instruct Apple’s servers to remove the unique machine identifier from their database, and at the same time it will remove all the user keys from its encrypted key repository. The iPod also has its own encrypted key repository. Every time a FairPlay-protected track is copied onto the iPod, iTunes will copy the user key from its own key repository to the key repository on the iPod. This makes sure that the iPod has everything it needs to play the encrypted AAC audio stream. FairPlay does not affect the ability of the file itself to be copied. It only manages the decryption of the audio content. Also : "Fairplay prevents iTunes customers from using the purchased music directly on any portable digital music player other than the Apple iPod, Motorola ROKR E1, Motorola SLVR, Motorola RAZR V3i, the iPhone and the iPad." Source: FairPlay on teh Wiki. Have some more source. This is more recent... it's from 22 hours ago. Edited May 10, 2012 by X-13
Haptic Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 This is a corker of a topic. I havent been to the cinema in nearly 2 years, last time I did I not only sat through a trail of the film I was actually about to watch.....I had to endure Jaime (who??) Winstone banging on about how piracy keeps the Taliban in box-fresh Adidas and that everytime I rip a CD an OAP breaks a hip. Thought it was comical after splashing nearly a tenner on an otherwise guff film. +1 for Pirates (The 'Pop-Up' variety, of course I don't condone illegal downloads at all, I merely have an excess of small plastic cutlasses) Wolfman
X-13 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I merely have an excess of small plastic cutlasses You have my shipping address. That is all.
Haptic Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Sorry, with the current stance on knife crime I'm afraid I can't supply without ID. Last thing we want is any Lego men stumbling out of the juicer and onto the sharp side of your polypropylene punishment Der Wolfen
X-13 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 http://wklondon.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c823e53ef013484a71549970c-400wi You don't need to see my ID.
Haptic Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Alec??? You should've just said, although you did nick off with my box of snouts when Han plugged Greedo in Mos Eisley....you actually owe me! Damn smoking ban.
arwen Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I've seen a few dvd's and Blu rays that instead of the usual "You wouldn't steal a car" rubbish have a nice little jingle and thank you for purchasing this dvd. Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling rather than the pissed off feeling the normal anti piracy messages give you. :-)
X-13 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 "You wouldn't steal a car" This [Contains the bomb of F] Followed by this
CyberNerd Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 NSFW I tried to watch Game of Thrones and this is what happened - The Oatmeal
CHR1S Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Der Wolfen Erm, which one of you are now going by Der Wolfen? and is that duuur or deeeer? lol
Heebeejeebee Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 It's not the FBI warnings that I object to so much (although they are a bit annoying) it's paying for a DVD and then getting crap loads of adverts that are also un-skippable. Anyone with kids will know who the main culprits are but it's becoming more prevalent - and I'm not talking rentals here but fully purchased retail DVDs / Blue rays. I can understand it in the cinema and I can sort of tolerate it on rentals but I don't want it on my own copies!. I've just given you a load of money - don't ruin the film experience. Grrrrr!! HBJB
MacGeek Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 The only way to stop movie piracy is to do what iTunes did for MP3s; offer a cheap, easy, instant and reliable download service.
Dos_Box Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 The only way to stop movie piracy is to do what iTunes did for MP3s; offer a cheap, easy, instant and reliable download service. And an ISP that doesn't throttle you 3/4 of the way through the download!
sted Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 And an ISP that doesn't throttle you 3/4 of the way through the download! and that dosent have usage caps and is cabapble of providing more than 740k download and . . . i shugger to think how long it would take me to download a blueray but i suspect i could fly to the states and back to get the disk and still be back before its 1/2 done
LeMarchand Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 The only way to stop movie piracy is to do what iTunes did for MP3s; offer a cheap, easy, instant and reliable download service. So you're saying that there's no music piracy going on? And an ISP that doesn't throttle you 3/4 of the way through the download! I thought you were on Virgin? They (are supposed to) only throttle P2P and Newsgroup downloads.
X-13 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 The only way to stop movie piracy is to do what iTunes did for MP3s; offer a cheap, easy, instant and reliable download service. They'd also have to do what iTunes [eventually] did with music and remove the stupid DRM.
sted Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 i just dont get the point of drm. its soon removed and all it does is put legitimate customers at a disadvantage and cost the company money. There is always going to be piracy but making people who buy the music/vid etc jump through hoops to get what they have paid for is not going to help you may as well stop adding te drm so you can sell it cheaper and might loose less to piracy
Arthur Posted May 15, 2012 Author Posted May 15, 2012 I don't think we are ever going to get DRM free movies from Hollywood, at least not when we have companies such as Rovi who obviously think consumers need more DRM! Macrovision CEO Fred Amoroso’s Response to Steve Jobs’s 'Thoughts on Music'
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