How to get an Ipad working with a projector?

[Damadarxx]

Greetings all,

 

As most would be aware that the “New Ipad” is now out and of course our IT teaching staff, are keen to have one in to see how it can be effectively used as a teaching tool.

One issue that we are having is getting our heads around connecting the IPad with our projectors within the rooms. None of them are wireless enabled so it will have to be cable option.

 

We know that you can use Apple TV as a go between. Then connect the Apple TV to the projector via HDMI (where supported) and then use Airplay to display the Ipad.

 

One issue that we are going to face is that, most projector speakers are horrible and cannot produce the needed volume for a classroom.

 

So our dilemma is how do we get the sound from apple TV to our Amp and speaker system that is currently installed?

 

Has anyone does this and what tools, go betweens have you used to ensure good sound is possible?

 

Many thanks for any input.

Richard

[chazzy2501]

Use a blutooth audio receiver direct from ipad.

 

like this one:Belkin Bluetooth Music Receiver: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

 

 

EDIT: May not work with airplay and with apps!

Edited March 8, 2012 by chazzy2501

[K.C.Leblanc]

Is there an audio out on the projector (it will however be a bit of a pig to cable)

 

If not you could replace the amp with an AV reciever that supports HDMI.

[Michael]

One important thing to remember about the iPad, is even if you do connect it to a projector, there's still no guarantee it will work. Apps have to be written to support dual screen operation, unlike a Windows PC which will clone absolutely anything, no matter what application you're using.

 

And as you pointed out, it's going to be very messy and expensive just to get it to work. I'm the kind of person that thinks if Apple wanted its users to do this, they would make it is easy to do, but clearly they don't.

 

Windows 8 tablets due at the end of the year will make this sort of thing a breeze and you'll be able to use your existing equipment/cabling for certain.

[bondbill2k2]

Video output using either an IPad VGA adaptor and a 3.5mm audio out to your normal speaker/amp input or the IPad composite Av Cable

[rdk]

Video output using either an IPad VGA adaptor and a 3.5mm audio out to your normal speaker/amp input or the IPad composite Av Cable

 

+1 to that. However, some apps will not project - to the projector they seem to not be there. But it will only be a few, most things work.

[bondbill2k2]

They also make a Digital AV Adaptor which I believe is only HDMI output

http://images.apple.com/euro/ipad/accessories/images/hdmi_cable.jpg

[Marci]

We have this up and running here with AppleTV2 and iPad2 for staff...

 

AppleTV > HDMI wall panel > HDMI socket on projector.

Audio Out on projector back down the loom to audio in on your amp.

 

AppleTV will require internet access, but doesn't support proxies at all, authenticated or otherwise, so ensure that it has access to net.

Turn on parental controls on the AppleTV and pinprotect them, then disable/hide everything within Parental Controls that you don't want folks to use (which tends to be everything - at the end of the day, all most will want it for is a wireless airplay receiver)

Ensure that the AppleTV is signed out of iTunes etc. Doesn't need any accounts to be programmed into it.

Set an airplay password, and rename the AppleTV to something relevant (whether that's to the room it's in, or the staff member it's allocated to depends how you've allocated the devices).

AppleTV needs to be on same subnet as the iPad.

 

Done. Turn it all on... turn on display Airplay and Display Mirroring on the iPad. Voila. Whatever is on the iPad's screen is on the projector. If the app specifically supports dual screen then you will get that functionality. If not, it'll behave like a PC does in mirror mode. Train staff to identify and push the aspect ratio button on the projector remote, as it'll need to be in 4:3 mode, not 16:9 mode to make best use of screen real estate.

 

There are no wireless-enabled projectors (or flat panel TVs) that work as a proper airplay receiver (YET) that I'm aware of, so don't fall into the trap of buying one and expecting it to work. AppleTV2 / 3 is only usable wire-free solution, and only with iPad 2 & 3.

Edited March 8, 2012 by Marci

[jamesfed]

To be honist the iPad is a consumer device that was never designed to be used in such a manner - wait for Windows 8 tablets to come out, with normal connectors and even the ablity to run any networked projector software that you might have

[Damadarxx]

Thanks ppl for all the info, keep it comming!

 

Lots of food for thought!

[Damadarxx]

Not 100% sure, we have the casio laser projectors in some rooms but then some really old epsons lol.

 

Is there an audio out on the projector (it will however be a bit of a pig to cable)

 

 

If not you could replace the amp with an AV reciever that supports HDMI.

[Damadarxx]

I see what your all saying about the adaptors, however the teacher wants to roam freely around the room, so the ipad need to do it's "thing" shall we say, wirelessly.