London Riots

[featured_spectre]

Hello Rioters. Look at your friend, now back to me. Now at your friend, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me, but if he stopped using petrol bombs and started using job centre he could potentially be me. Look down, back up. Where are we? You're at an interview with the man your friend could work for. What's in your hand? Back at me. I have it. It's an application form to that job you need. Look again. The form is now money. Anything is possible when you get a job and stop looting.

 

I'm at my job.

[TechMonkey]

Playing devils advocate, if the councils evict them they will end up in another councils jurisdiction. Do we expect every council to turn them away? Start forming shanty towns on the outskirts of town?

 

& talking about prisons, studies have shown that countries with freer (less harsh) prisons actually have a lower rate of re-offence. Though spinning again that could be because they all ready have a low crime rate/high moral level.

 

I do think the police should have taken a stronger stance from the second night though. But they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they show up prepared for trouble they are accused of inciting it themselves, if they try and police carefully they are told they are being soft. Same as happened with the student protests. Personally I blame a lot of it on Americanisation. Kids going around saying stick it to the "Feds", complain about how harsh & unfair the police are, when in fact they are taking their experience from US films, tv, music and events. We have had a tradition of policing by consent where as in US they have policed by force. If the population, even a section of it as we have now, disregard that consent what are the police to do?

 

I think the funniest thing is how there was such an uproar about kettling and now everyone (generally, not specific to here) is demanding rubber bullets and the full force of the military to be used.

[JJonas]

Flickr: Greater Manchester Police-Wanted's Photostream

[Guest Guest]

I think the funniest thing is how there was such an uproar about kettling and now everyone (generally, not specific to here) is demanding rubber bullets and the full force of the military to be used.

 

Because 99% of the students were there to protest, only a small minority rioted. Here it is the other way round with 99% of them simply there to riot and thieve.

[MK-2]

Because 99% of the students were there to protest, only a small minority rioted. Here it is the other way round with 99% of them simply there to riot and thieve.

 

is that 99% as in 99.999999999999% and rounded up? because to me the only reason you are walking down a street in manchester with your face covered up is because you are there to riot and thieve.

[Guest Guest]

is that 99% as in 99.999999999999% and rounded up? because to me the only reason you are walking down a street in manchester with your face covered up is because you are there to riot and thieve.

 

Was being diplomatic as there's always going to be one who says "I should be allowed to wear whatever I want and be where ever I want and not be branded the same..."

 

Anyway, here's something to cheer people up (don't think its even our riots actually but still made me smile) - BOOM

 

http://i.imgur.com/JCQWV.gif

Edited August 10, 2011 by Guest

[MK-2]

 

http://i.imgur.com/JCQWV.gif

 

that is superb. i hope he also slid along the floor on some broken glass

[6Foot2]

Anyway, here's something to cheer people up...

 

From the Vancouver hockey riots [June this year]

 

Link: BBC News - Vancouver Canucks ice hockey riot sees 100 arrested

[GrumbleDook]

is that 99% as in 99.999999999999% and rounded up? because to me the only reason you are walking down a street in manchester with your face covered up is because you are there to riot and thieve.

 

If there were there to riot and steal at least we would know they have a better grasp of the English language, as it is unlikely that they are being ironic by saying they are there to thieve!

[JJonas]

We have changed the sign for our county capital just in case

 

 

So please visit but behave yourselves

[Butters]

During the riots Tottenham had announced that they've signed a new striker.

 

'Grabbateli'

 

[Theblacksheep]

1132: BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court John Brain tells BBC 5 live the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon.

 

EDIT: Maybe a man, who knows.

Edited August 10, 2011 by Theblacksheep

[localzuk]

I was brought up as an atheist, with no corporal punishment in the family. I think it would be fairly safe to say that I had nothing to fear in that respect.

 

I'm not saying this would work for everyone, by any stretch, my point is more that saying fear and punishment are key is oversimplifying.

 

Of course it is over simplifying, I'm not going to sit and do a 20,000 word thesis on the issue. Of course there are other issues, and there are always fringe examples, but some things are blatantly obvious and just need stating.

 

And to my anonymous neg repper who says "How can you have such a narrow minded view. It can and does happen through no fault of parents!"

 

The reason I say this? Because parents are to blame for a huge amount of the behaviour of their children. Go back 50 years. How many 8 year olds would have even considered going out onto the streets of the UK looting? You're not going to be using many fingers counting them...

 

Go back 30 years, how many then? What's the difference between now and then?

Edited August 10, 2011 by localzuk

[MK-2]

1132: BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court John Brain tells BBC 5 live the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon.

 

well that will do wonders for teaching and discipline in classes.

"sir, why should we listen to you when teachers go looting and smash up shops"

 

way to put your own personal greed ahead of everything else

[Butters]

1132: BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court John Brain tells BBC 5 live the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon.

 

A surprising amount of people in jobs are being convicted for their part in this.

 

I've heard of a Banker, youth worker and others being tried for offences so it's not just angry kids but bloody silly peopl in jobs as well.

 

Mob mentality and all that.

[Theblacksheep]

A surprising amount of people in jobs are being convicted for their part in this.

 

I've heard of a Banker, youth worker and others being tried for offences so it's not just angry kids but bloody silly peopl in jobs as well.

 

Mob mentality and all that.

 

Also one signed up to join the army.

[JJonas]

Alexis is a he and a teaching support assistant, not a teacher - source BBC News

 

 

here he is leaving court and walking into a lamppost

 

Edited August 10, 2011 by JJonas

[featured_spectre]

A surprising amount of people in jobs are being convicted for their part in this.

 

I've heard of a Banker, youth worker and others being tried for offences so it's not just angry kids but bloody silly peopl in jobs as well.

 

Mob mentality and all that.

 

I believe people in the cities are doing it purely based on the fact that prices for everyday items are at an all time high, never mind the additional items such as electricals along with it!

 

In an Asda store in North London it was 88p for a loaf of their own brand cheap bread, no more than 30 miles away it is 46p...If there is such a price difference in the big cities and peoples wages do not reflect this (London Weighting only does so much), then people feel cheated. Some may take the stupid decision to loot, others will stay at home and be safe.

[synaesthesia]

I have a different viewpoint. Many of the children I knew in school were disciplined with unthinking brute force of varying degrees, and none of those who were have grown up particularly successful or moral.

 

Not much more to add but I will hasten to say anyone who disciplines using "unthinking brute force" deserves to be "brute forced" even more than the rioters.

 

Care, Consideration, Reason.

[JJonas]

Pictured in his hospital bed: The victim of sickening riot robbery had jaw smashed before thugs rifled through his rucksack | Mail Online

[AyatollahPies]

Was being diplomatic as there's always going to be one who says "I should be allowed to wear whatever I want and be where ever I want and not be branded the same..."

 

Anyway, here's something to cheer people up (don't think its even our riots actually but still made me smile) - BOOM

 

http://i.imgur.com/JCQWV.gif

 

I know inflation is running high, but I didn't realise that Budget car rentals had bumped their prices up so high that the poor, EMA less yoof could no longer afford to hire a car.

[Guest Guest]

I know inflation is running high, but I didn't realise that Budget car rentals had bumped their prices up so high that the poor, EMA less yoof could no longer afford to hire a car.

 

Talking about car rentals and costs of living, no wonder car insurance is so high. Had a women scrape down my <£2000 car (Toyota MR2) yesterday. I'm getting a curtasy car while its repaired which will take atleast a few days. As they replace with a "similar vehicle" I am getting a Audi A3, BMW 1 series or a Mazda RX8. I understand you should get a car of similar size, estate for estate etc, but I'd have been happy with a Vaux Astra or some other cheapo motor.

 

For the sake of a few hundred pound scrape on a £2000 car they are folking out several hundred pounds in car hire alone.

Edited August 10, 2011 by Guest

[Trapper]

I can't believe my family. They've decided to all go out for a meal at 8pm tonight.

 

Even after pointing out to them that it's really not a good idea they're still doing it. Bloody teachers!* They never listen.

 

(*That's not a general insult they are all in fact teachers)

[jinnantonnixx]

I can't believe my family. They've decided to all go out for a meal at 8pm tonight.

 

Even after pointing out to them that it's really not a good idea they're still doing it. Bloody teachers!* They never listen.

 

(*That's not a general insult they are all in fact teachers)

 

 

Well, I know a good taxi company they might want to use...

 

[jinnantonnixx]

I just caught a couple of people interviewed by the BBC news, specifically a pea brained man and a gobby woman advocating and defending rioters respectively. The man blamed the Poles for taking away jobs (infer away) and the woman stated that 'the kids have got nothing', where clearly the kids in tow were well fed, clothed and seem to have been afforded what 90% of the world's population can only dream of.

 

Bound by the shackles of logic, I was unable to follow their reasoning, but it did annoy me. Damn you BBC for wasting air time on imbeciles like these. Leave this stuff to the Daily Mail.

Edited August 10, 2011 by jinnantonnixx