pcstru Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Subs ive personally never been that bothered my fronts give enough bass for me 90% of the time ok sometimes in a film i wouldnt mind a bit more but not enough to buy a 1/2 decent sub is there actually any point in the extra speakers that a 7.1 system can cope with or is it just more speakers for the sake of more speakers? Depends. On films with a soundtrack recorded for 5.1 or 7.1, it can add to the experience enormously (at least compared to stereo). A decent sub will go much lower than all but the most exotic speakers with less distortion and tracks optimised for 5.1 should have a track mixed specifically for the presence of a sub. The other advantage of a sub is to unload the amp a bit. With 7 speakers to drive it helps to offload the low frequencies to an active sub just in terms of load on the power supply. For music I have mixed feelings - the processor is making up a 'mix' on the fly if it is feeding 7 speakers. However even with mission 735's at the front which are well capable of decent bass, listening to Bach's Passagalia and Fuge in C, with Missions on their own it's good - impressive even, with the sub online, it is awesome. The downside of a sub is they are really really fussy about the room and position they are in and without some EQ management, they can as easily ruin a good set-up and compliment it. Even with good EQ, you can only really get them right for one listening position. I guess that's true for all speakers really but since they don't usually go quite so low, it's not quite so noticeable.
cpjitservices Posted April 2, 2011 Author Posted April 2, 2011 got old JVC min-system in the kitchen sounds fine for the kitchen but wouldnt use it for normal living room use - doesnt look as good as the main system either!
Busybub Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Does anyone remember when QED brought out 'directional speaker cable'? Actually, all metal cables are directional. Whether or not you can actually hear a difference depends on the cable, your system, and your ears. I won't debate the point, IME you either believe it or you don't, irrespective of the science behind it.
Andrew_C Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 I won't debate the point, IME you either believe it or you don't, irrespective of the science behind it.Science?? Don't make me laugh! Snake Oil; pure and simple!
Busybub Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Science?? Don't make me laugh! Snake Oil; pure and simple! Precisely why I never bother trying to convince anybody...
maniac Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 It is true that cables can be made directional and the difference can be scientifically measured using very sensitive instruments, but in reality it makes no difference in the sound you perceive, it really doesn't. You'll get more loss through the connections between the amp and the cable and the speaker and the cable than any suposed gain you might get from directional cable. This also goes for silver cable and anything gold plated - the only use they have (apart from looking nice) is they do stop oxidation at the exposed ends, but in themselves don't really offer any notable improvement over copper. I actually use mains cable for my speaker wire and it sounds absolutely fine, and it's a lot cheaper. I measured the resistance of mains cable against some 12 guage speaker cable and there was such a tiny difference it wasn't worth worrying about.
cpjitservices Posted April 4, 2011 Author Posted April 4, 2011 Me too, I use mains cable as speaker cable such like old extension cables etc etc, it is cheap and sounds absolutely fine it's what I recommend to anyone.
nsherin Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Have been into hifi for yonks and have box swapped loads of kit over the years. Music is my primary thing and getting a decent music and home cimema setup can be a challenge - you need to spend serious cash to get decent results from AV amps for music. Very happy with the system now, using a stereo amp for music, with the pre-outs from my AV processor fed into it for home cinema use. The current kit list: Living Room System: - Sony RCD-W100 - as a transport/CD recorder - Sony MDS-JB980 MiniDisc deck - Sony's last 'QS' series model - fantastic bit of kit - Denon TU-1800 FM/DAB Tuner - Rega P1 Turntable with stock RB100 arm / Ortofon OM5e MM cartridge - Arcam rDAC - the CD-R deck, one of my DVD players and the PC (via USB) are fed into this - Marantz DV-6600 DVD/DVD-Audio/SACD player (multi-region) - Sony RDR-HXD560 HDD/DVD recorder with FreeView Tuner - Sony PS3 120GB Slim (upgraded to 250GB) - Arcam FMJ A18 - combined with the rDAC, sounds absolutely stunning for music - Yamaha DSP-E800 - 3-channel amp (for rears/centre) with pre-outs for sub/fronts (fronts powered by the Arcam). Processes Dolby Digital and DTS too. - Wharfedale Diamond 10.3 floorstanders (Fronts) - Wharfedale Diamond 10CM (Centre) - Wharfedale Diamond 10.0 (Rears - on Atcama Nexus 10SE stands) - LG 32LH4010 32" 1080p LCD TV Bedroom System: - Sherwood amp - £8.50 from a car boot - Philips CDR760 CD Recorder (used as a CD player only) - Sony MDS-JE480 MiniDisc Deck - Yamaha TX-386 FM/AM Tuner (free from Freecycle) - Onkyo DS-AX2 iPod Dock - Mission m70 Bookshelf Speakers (had these yonks with a variety of kit - excellent little speakers) Portables: - iPod Classic 160GB - iPod Nano 3G 8GB - Panasonic MiniDisc Recporder - Sony MiniDisc Recorder - Sony DiscMan Edited May 4, 2011 by nsherin
CHR1S Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I sand filled my Q 1030i's last night, cant say I noticed a difference, maybe a tad more bass, think I need to fiddle with my x-overs as they are set to 100hz and im not positive its the best for my setup.
pshuttle Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 - Arcam FMJ A18 - combined with the rDAC, sounds absolutely stunning for music Jealous. Lovely amp. Pete
pshuttle Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 To make mine sound better, I'm going to buy a few of these. Silver SuperKord Signature-SD II : product details The Silver SuperKord Sig... and, no I'm not, and it is after noon! I liken Russ Andrews to a modern day snake oil salesman. I still get sent catalogues once in a while and some of the products featured in there with supposed audible benefits are hilarious. Pete
Guest salan Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Precisely why I never bother trying to convince anybody... Well I don't want to get into a debate about this, but I would be interested in what you mean. So perhaps you could pm me an explanation please? Alan
JJonas Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I rip mp3 and it is "good enough" tbh.. but that's a different debate. Certainly the squeeze will handle various MP3, OGG, Flac and I think AAC too. And the server software is good. And there are smartphone apps. Didnt occur to me that there would be smartphone apps for my Squeezebox Boom. Now what shall I remotely annoy the wife with? suggestions please
sidewinder Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I have: Cambridge A1 MkIII Amp NAD C521 CD Player Gale Silver Monitor speakers The amp and speakers were free from my old job as they were inexplicably getting rid to replace with a cheap and nasty wall mounted amp and Nuvo speakers, and the CD player was a present To be honest I barely use it all, I dont even have it at my flat at the minute! But it does sound good
cpjitservices Posted May 24, 2011 Author Posted May 24, 2011 some pics of my speakers!! although if I get the right amount of cash for my birthday these could be changing!! http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/cpj2010/PICT1388.jpg http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/cpj2010/PICT1387.jpg
Sonic007 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Love music! My system is an Arcam A28 Amplifier and B&W 685 Speakers.
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