can i build my own CC4 Server?

[computers_r_the_enemy]

Hi everyone

 

if im in the wrong place sorry just need so advise im current the network NM on a cc3 network the server is about 6 years old running cc3 win2003 and around 80 rm clients i have requested a qoute from rm for a new dual serv xl and to go from cc3 to cc4 just got the qoute they want £7500 and that does not include installation and set by EIS which i have to get pricing for.

 

My question is can i just buy an HP Proliant server put a copy of win 2003 on it seems simple enough but where do i go or can i get hold of cc4 discs myself or buy the hardware from rm and install it all myself whats involved with setting up a cc4 server any advise i would be very grafeful

 

Thanks

[3s-gtech]

If it's pricing and do-it-yourself you're looking for, RM CC is probably not the answer.

 

If you do it yourself, you could get a nice new powerful server, copy of Server 2008 R2, and start to build it 'vanilla'. There are conversion processes from CC too. Depends how happy you are with using Windows Server really - otherwise it's an RM job, and you pay the quoted price.

[Hightower]

==removed== Edited October 5, 2010 by Hightower
for being a douche

[powdarrmonkey]

and breath........ now try asking the same with full stops, commas, and question marks

 

And breathe... now please chastise people for no reason with the correct spelling, and finish your sentence with a full stop.

 

Maybe now you could get over it and contribute a useful answer instead?

[sparkeh]

@OP: Simple answer is "You can't do that". RM do not allow you to commision your own CCx servers and all the tools etc are strictly in house.

[Hightower]

==removed== Edited October 5, 2010 by Hightower
for being a douche

[powdarrmonkey]

Sorry - I failed you. Now if you wouldn't mind building a partition wall on the side of the bed you got out of this morning so it doesn't happen again, it will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Hightower]

==removed== Edited October 5, 2010 by Hightower
for, you guessed it, being a douche

[powdarrmonkey]

In other words, when I want your opinion, I'll ring the bell sir.

 

You'll get my opinion whether you want it or not. That's how forums work.

 

Your attitude has reeked all through this thread and others today. Maybe you ought to consider how that's reflecting on your reputation.

[Hightower]

You'll get my opinion whether you want it or not. That's how forums work.

 

Your attitude has reeked all through this thread and others today. Maybe you ought to consider how that's reflecting on your reputation.

 

You're completely right. You have my most sincerest apologies. I'm having one of those days, and although it's no excuse we all need somewhere to vent. Sorry you got the brunt of it

[kmount]

We're all friends here.

 

For the sake of the OP - Realistically no I don't think you can build your own CC4 server without incurring costing from RM, it's not as straight forward as bunging a disk in I'm afraid.

 

It might be worth considering the functionality you use in CC3 and whether it could be done without it and also why you are considering moving to CC4 altogether if it's just the age of the server it might be worth thinking of a 'refresh' within the school, involve the userbase and see what they would like etc.

[Hightower]

Now I have my head screwed on, here comes a semi useful answer.

 

Be careful when purchasing hardware not bought from RM, that is to be used on a CC3/4 network. We bought a HP server last year as a replacement. When we got the bill for the commissioning of it, it was more than expected because the hardware didn't come 'configured ready to go'. CC3 especially is very picky for things like making sure the 'WINDOWS' folder is actually called 'WINNT' and other such nonsense.

 

Hope that helps. It certainly helped me feel better

[mounters]

You can supply your own hardware for a CCx build, you will however incur the costs to have the server build streamed onto it. This is quite a lot from RM (to make you buy their hardware I believe) although you may find that your LA (if RM approved/trained) can do this for you.

 

The actual commissioning process whilst not complex does require you to have the up to date instructions (these are only available to you if you have been on the RM commissioning training) if you don't follow these exactly then you can be in for a world of pain.

 

If you want/need the simplicity of CCx (i.e. it's configured, tested, etc for you) then you have to pay for it.

[bossman]

@hightower:

 

I bought our servers and then had the LA commission the servers after I had bought the required software from RM.

 

PM me or ring me and we will talk as I need to talk with you regarding something else

 

Will PM my Mob:

[russdev]

Few things here...

 

As others said can't do it yourself.

 

Yes can use other hardware cost have recently changed so do not think much difference these days but you better get a quote to be sure.

 

They also have an eco install method which is the kit arrives at school. You setup the hardware and download the logmein and then they do rest from offsite.

 

Russ

[sparkeh]

They also have an eco install method which is the kit arrives at school. You setup the hardware and download the logmein and then they do rest from offsite.

 

I encountered a bit of confusion about this when I enquired. We wanted an eco install but was told that you couldn't have it for a first server commissioning. Not sure if that was correct?

[computers_r_the_enemy]

Thanks guys for your help.