Guest Guest Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 How does it affect you? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/05_07_2010_schoolbuilding.pdf BBC News - School buildings scheme scrapped We've been stopped
siuko Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Looks like we have been stopped too... a little hard to tell as it doesnt state our full school name So whether there were plans for other things or if it just means the whole school... Interesting indeed... wonder when or if they will tell us... Edited July 6, 2010 by siuko
Andycat Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Blackburn is unaffected, but Bolton is mostly stopped. We're a joint one though, and the Managed IT Service is definitely across both boroughs. I'm now confused!
Guest Guest Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Damn - Salford's "unaffected" lol I don't know how i feel about it. Getting TUPED into a big company would have been good as there would be a nice long ladder to climb, but would it have been as simple as that? Then obviously for the good of the kids, but again is it as simple as new build = good school? There is a part of me which is laughing at the fact that if the govt./councils had got their fingers outs of their bureaucratic asses then most of the schools would have been far enough through and the cost been far less that BSF would have went ahead.
Gatt Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 @j17sparky; The "Damn" is more at the fact that my school is set for a meeting with a wrecking ball, and merged with a neighbouring school... I'm getting TUPE'd to RM in September, may be better, it may not - only time will tell...
GrumbleDook Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Only the already planned Academies in Northants it seems.
CAM Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 I've been following the debate and made notes. Some interesting stuff and added it to a news article that should be up on the front page soon.
jsnetman Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Don't know whether I'm happy or sad. On the one hand I was not in favour of a managed IT service for obvious reasons (job security). But on the other schools need to be rebuilt especially ours and many others of course. BSF won't be happening for us but what the future may bring could be even worse.
gaz350 Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 I would have chuckled if our osp in rutland was scrapped, final fit out (when we get the keys) happens in October and it's virtually complete from a structure point of view. On another point, I think we'll open just at the right point with regards to the pain the government is going to pass on to the public, hopefully we'll be able to weather the impending storm the cuts will bring to ict Sadly not all schools will be so lucky
jsnetman Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 My place is not listed!!! Ermmmm.... Ours not listed either, we were in the very latter stages I think wave 6a or even later, so maybe they have not included schools in the latter stages, as obviously they would be cut. Mind you that list was hobbled together pretty quickly after the announcement so maybe there was errors compiling it.
DrCheese Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 That list only includes areas that had already started BSF planning, if your area hadn't then it won't be on the list
jsnetman Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 That list only includes areas that had already started BSF planning, if your area hadn't then it won't be on the list The majority of secondary schools in North Tyneside are listed, but not ours. I think we have a couple who got funding as path finder projects, the majority are going to miss out though.
jimmy_2k Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Do you think they might just put all schools on managed service in the name of cost savings? I remember when a lot of catering/cleaning jobs were TUPE'd over to the private sector for this reason.
jsnetman Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Do you think they might just put all schools on managed service in the name of cost savings? I can't see that happening, I'm not sure but part of the managed ICT bit was an incentive of say £1500 per pupil initial investment. Then the school would have to carry on this investment based on what they spend now, so basically outsourcing what they spend now on IT to an external company. I think that initial investment comes from the government, so that is now shafted. or is a combined bribe from the builder and an IT company, no builder=no managed IT Edited July 5, 2010 by jsnetman
maniac Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) We're unaffected, but loads of schools in Kent are - even some of the academy schools are labelled 'for discussion' I think we are just a little bit too far down the process of our new build for them to back track now thankfully. I know quite a few people here are not in favour of BSF for various reasons, but for us we really need new premises, we're out growing our current buildings very quickly. Edited July 5, 2010 by maniac
IanT Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 couple of schools down the road to me have been stopped. its sad that we wont get any new schools but glad we wont see the IT side of things get all silly with managed services.
AngryITGuy Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Michael Gove and Ed Balls are debating the BSF suspensions on Newsnight
AngryTechnician Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Michael Gove and Ed Balls are debating the BSF suspensions on Newsnight Just watched a recording of this, it wasn't particularly interesting - just the usual mudslinging over the deficit and where cuts should be made accompanied by 'think of the chillldruuuuun' whinging from Balls. No discussion meaningful of the actual cuts really.
Disease Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Ours is stopped, Big cheers and free beers all round!
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