AIT Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Apple has sued HTC claiming 20 patent violations relating to iPhone and other technology, including the iPhone's multitouch functionality. Link to article: Apple sues HTC over multitouch and other patents - ZDNet.co.uk Do you think HTC have a leg to stand on?
mac_shinobi Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 I saw that one this morning via IT pro news letter in my inbox and contemplated making a post but decided against it as didn't feel like starting a flame war or anything - would be good to see peoples opinions on this.
ZeroHour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 I think its pretty disgraceful that they were allowed some of those patents. I am generally against all software patents as they all seem to stiffle innovation and far to many are to generic.
AIT Posted March 4, 2010 Author Posted March 4, 2010 It does make an interesting argument about what there patent actually covers. to quote: "'unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image', 'list scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touchscreen display', and 'object-oriented graphic system'." what will happen to htc devices that do violate? can apple monopolise the market like this?
webman Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Software patents are ridiculous. That's all I have to say.
mac_shinobi Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 It does make an interesting argument about what there patent actually covers. to quote: "'unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image', 'list scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touchscreen display', and 'object-oriented graphic system'." what will happen to htc devices that do violate? can apple monopolise the market like this? I left them to it because apple are getting sued by nokia. Also sagem, blackberry and all the others are trying to file suit / follow suit etc so its just getting a bit silly now.
Theblacksheep Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Most big companies are taking the michael over patents... patentening the 'click' or the 'genture' FFS
localzuk Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 My guess as to the outcome will be a bunch of cross-licensing deals, a bit of money changing hands and it all going quiet. Simply because each company, and the open handset alliance (IIRC that's what its called) have a huge portfolio of patents with which they could strike back. This is more likely a method of ensuring cheap licensing deals... Software patents are a ridiculous idea. Sure, copyright things but patenting software is dumb.
ZeroHour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Amazon have the patent for the 1 click shopping basket lol. Also BT have the old patent for the hyperlink as well. Scrap them all I say.
glennda Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Theres no point patenting things that are to do with computers anyway... Microsoft will still steal all your ideas!
Guest Guest Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 "'unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image' Thats funny. My tocco does that, ooh and yes i believe the tocco was out before the iPhone. Its thinks like this which remind me why i hate Apple sometimes. MS in the 90s... nothing compared to Apple of late.
glennda Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 I should have patented windows 7... as it was my idea 1
Chunky Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 No. It was the idea of a few people. I've seen them on the telly telling me it was their idea.
CyberNerd Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 No. It was the idea of a few people. I've seen them on the telly telling me it was their idea. they were all linux/mac users then
Gatt Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 what will happen to htc devices that do violate? All affected phones will receive a software update that will: Display a message forcing the user to choose one of the following: 1) Purchase an iPhone - this option will then brick the HTC handset 2) Uninstall the HTC Software, bricking the handset as it does not comlpy with Apple Patents 3) Ask again later - the prompt will then re-appear the next time the phone is switched on, or when you go to answer/make a phone call or send/receive an SMS/MMS
webman Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 what will happen to htc devices that do violate? All affected phones will receive a software update that will: Display a message forcing the user to choose one of the following: Sorry, no can do - that idea is patented
Gatt Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Unless its running WM5/6 - in whcih case - no patent infringments
fafster Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) I think its pretty disgraceful that they were allowed some of those patents. I am generally against all software patents as they all seem to stiffle innovation and far to many are to generic. You'll love this one, then: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Szh4AAAAEBAJ&dq=7028023 Edited March 4, 2010 by ZeroHour changed to google patents link
localzuk Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 You'll love this one, then: Linked list - US Patent 7028023 Abstract o.O What on Earth?! Linked lists are older than most members of this site!! Man, the US Patent Office needs a kick up the rear...
ZeroHour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 (changed link to google patents btw, its free and better) WTH thats a joke, it was filed in 2002 as well!
fafster Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 The idea of software patents is a farce, especially when it's mostly covered by copyright laws anyway.
apoth0r Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Bullying in the workplace! Counter-sue! Rediculous, Apple are turning people against them. I vow never to buy an Apple product!
glennda Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Bullying in the workplace! Counter-sue! Rediculous, Apple are turning people against them. I vow never to buy an Apple product! I do that anyway!! i hate apple software and took so long taking the out of the iphone for being rubbish i couldn't then get one - so i then got a Nexus one which is soooooo much better!!
Hightower Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Sounds to me like Apple can't hit Google directly, so is trying to hit them indirectly.
synaesthesia Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 All counter-productive. Apple don't particularly have a leg to stand on with this one. They're being sued by Nokia for various infringements, in turn a majority of other manufacturers licence that technology from Nokia - and some of them are being sued by Apple for... ouch, my head is starting to hurt Sick of it all really. Apple need to grow up a bit, it's clear they're getting a bit antsy with all the competition coming up. If they want to have a go at someone, they should probably try with those chinese folks making the £20 knock-offs which are better than the real thing.
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