somabc Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Google finally going to launch their own Web focused OS initially for netbooks (x86 & ARM). To be based off the Linux Kernel with a new windowing system. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44986000/jpg/_44986162_-7.jpg Official Google Blog: Introducing the Google Chrome OS BBC NEWS | Technology | Google to launch operating system
jamesb Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Oh goodie. Now they can put advertising on our computers even when we're not browsing the net. What joy. I think I'll be avoiding this one.
Potato-Peeler Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 So Ubuntu with a big google background and icon on the apps launcher? Maybe an advert bar at the top? Going to be so awesome! Not
somabc Posted July 8, 2009 Author Posted July 8, 2009 Well it should be much faster if they are not using X-Windows, plus there will be only one app - 'Chrome'. All applications will run in the browser!
tmcd35 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 I read that it won't be supporting third party web api's - so no flash, java, silverlight, etc. All apps must be AJAX. So I guess they are counting on HTML5 competing well in the flash/silverlight space? @jamesb - What do you mean - "not browsing the net" - As far as google are concerned if you're using a computer you're browsing the net. I mean what else are computers for?
CyberNerd Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 I already run google's linux based operating system (android). I don't get any adverts on it.
Michael Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 The competition is great and it could possibly force Microsoft to sell Windows cheaper. Depends how good Chrome OS will be.
tmcd35 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Unless there is a huge paradigm shift towards Cloud Computing and Network Appliances, ChromeOS will not compete with Windows. Remember, according to early reports, ChromeOS will be little more than a bootable web browser. To compete with Windows Google will have to make some compelling killer apps available in the Cloud.
enjay Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 To compete with Windows Google will have to make some compelling killer apps available in the Cloud. A web browser and Google Apps would satisfy the needs of a large number of people; not everyone, of course, but enough that such a product could become a serious candidate. I'm sure we're a long way off PC World selling their computers pre-loaded with Chrome though!
originofsymmetry Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Terrible tbh. I'm sure there would be a fair amount of advertising going on, remembering that Google is afterall a business. I they aren't charging for this 'OS' then how will they make their money?
Theblacksheep Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 The giant cloud toolbar. Nice little piece from El Reg: Google's vanity OS is Microsoft's dream ? The Register "The idea of a desktop running a thin OS served by the cloud is fine - until you want to do image processing, or make music or videos. You do realise there's more to a PC than updating your Facebook profile, right?" As for adverts - its not about seeing adverts in the traditional sense, its about tracking and information gathering. Which chrome does very well, but this should be on a different level.
CyberNerd Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Terrible tbh. I'm sure there would be a fair amount of advertising going on, remembering that Google is afterall a business. I they aren't charging for this 'OS' then how will they make their money? They sell their services to business. as I posted earlier, I have a google OS. It integrates really well with all the things I use -email, youtube, search, calendar. I don't pay for their service as I uses it non-commercially. If I wanted my (non-edu) company to use googles services then they would make money out of it. I'd have a contract and be content that they would honor it and not sell my commercial secrets! or loose my data. The vast majority of business users do nothing more than calendaring, email, office documents and websites. Google provides all this and is a good place to go if you want your business noticed by their searches.
torledo Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 The giant cloud toolbar. Nice little piece from El Reg: Google's vanity OS is Microsoft's dream ? The Register "The idea of a desktop running a thin OS served by the cloud is fine - until you want to do image processing, or make music or videos. You do realise there's more to a PC than updating your Facebook profile, right?" yes, but how much *more* do you really want to do on an atom or arm powered netbook ? It's already the case that demand has moved from how-cheap-can-it-go to how can you make one more like a fully functional laptop while maintaining ultraportability and not be quite as obsessed with making it absurdly cheap ? In other words expectations have risen, and the novelty factor of the netbook as originally thought out has worn off somewhat. I see the advantage of what google are doing as addressing the issue for the netbook specifically, which has suffered from a square block round hole problem of people wanting to run xp or a halfway house linux experience. Far better to approach it from a different angle. Address the issues around security and maintenance for the novice user, make something that is truly uncomplicated. Then again i personally never really embraced the whole netbook thing. Much happier with a lightweight unibody macbook. Don't feel the need to squint at a 10" screen and struggle with titchy touchpads. Infact in my view, i only need two portable devices, a 12/13" laptop with or without optical drive and with either ULV or core2 processor. And a touchscreen smartphone [android based phone is good for starters]. So for me the real interest from google is in android. ChromeOS is just a curiosity.
jamesb Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 The vast majority of business users do nothing more than calendaring, email, office documents and websites. Google provides all this and is a good place to go if you want your business noticed by their searches. Plus CRM, data analysis (corporate data, not the kind you want google to have), and a hundred other applications which you don't want to be indexed by a disreputable advertsising company. How long until they start pushing other companies to your contacts, basing their targetting on your own business model?
kearton Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 ...they are counting on HTML5 competing well in the flash/silverlight space? I guess this will then depend if (Google/Apple favoured) H.264 triumphs over (Mozilla/Opera favoured) Ogg Theora in the HTML5 video codec debate ??
enjay Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 The vast majority of business users do nothing more than calendaring, email, office documents and websites. Really? I've worked in a variety of roles and industries (especially during time with a temping agency) and I think that every company I worked for had some form of proprietary or third party application, typically finance software or customer tracking. Google OS has a sound home market but only limited commercial one, I reckon.
CyberNerd Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Really? I've worked in a variety of roles and industries (especially during time with a temping agency) and I think that every company I worked for had some form of proprietary or third party application, typically finance software or customer tracking. Google OS has a sound home market but only limited commercial one, I reckon. And many of these are java applications. Interestingly, google are developing app engine, which will run java apps in the cloud. Pretty handy to have you inhouse apps with api's into your docs/mail etc [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3GT4-m_6RQ]YouTube - Google App Engine - Early Look at Java Language Support[/ame] Google App Engine - Google Code
jamesb Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 And many of these are java applications. Interestingly, google are developing app engine, which will run java apps in the cloud. Pretty handy to have you inhouse apps with api's into your docs/mail etc Google App Engine - Google Code I have yet to work in a single place where their main, mission-critical applications are written in Java. If I did I wouldn't want to work there for long. I have seen these programs written for DOS, Windows, various flavours of Linux and even one which needed users to telnet into a Unix box, but I've never seen one written in Java.
CyberNerd Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I have yet to work in a single place where their main, mission-critical applications are written in Java. sun? oracle? All the IBM apps I've looked at seem to be Java.
localzuk Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 A lot of major business systems use Java as it is a superb business oriented language, with the various editions of it for enterprise. 1
tmcd35 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I have yet to work in a single place where their main, mission-critical applications are written in Java. If I did I wouldn't want to work there for long. The Dixons Stores Group repos (till) system is entirely written in Java - It never worked properly from day 1. But thats due to very poor implementation rather than problems with Java IMHO. Also they use Open Office 1 on the desktop, which I'm sure also relies very heavily on Java.
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