sidewinder Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 pah, didnt even have a disk drive with my BBC, this is the price you pay for using such new fangled technology Bring back the tapes I say
rolfea Posted February 27, 2009 Author Posted February 27, 2009 Almost feel like doing a "let me google that for you" but actually, I've already typed the answer just a few lines above ... Sorry, think I just got lazy and didn't read it all.
rolfea Posted February 27, 2009 Author Posted February 27, 2009 I typed exactly *form 80 0 to format disc 0 into the bbc machine. Had the disc drive connect and a switch on the back set to 80 the machine stopped, almost to think about it, the disc drive didn't do anything. eventually the machine resulted in saying bad command.
srochford Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 I typed exactly *form 80 0 to format disc 0 Sorry; should have made that clearer! type * form 80 0 to format disc 0 I'm assuming the machine has Acorn DFS; if it doesn't then the command might be different. Can you type: *help - this will give you a list of the ROMs installed in the machine. I think pretty much all BBC Bs had the connectors for the disc drive but not all had the actual disc controller and DFS (disc filing system) ROM
rolfea Posted February 27, 2009 Author Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) It does have the Acorn DFS I looked at the manuals on the page you linked also, didn't really understand much of it. I really do know nothing about these machines. GUI ftw Tried that command, returned Bad Command instantly Edited February 27, 2009 by rolfea
srochford Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 So long since I used one but I'm wondering if it's case sensitive. Can you try: *HELP When it first switches on it will say something like "BBC B 32k" at the top and under that should be a list of installed ROMs (perhaps just one) - what does it say??
Sirbendy Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 GUI? Pah. PEEK and POKE, Daisywheels, arcane command lines and BASIC FTW. 6502 CPUs rock my world. Not so much the Z80, the 8080 or the 8088 though. And lets just bury the 80186 episodes...RM Nimbus..argh.
HenningWalker Posted April 26, 2010 Posted April 26, 2010 Would anyone happen to know how you list what ROM chips you have in a BBC B, and then how you would run software from them?
Ketlane Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 Would anyone happen to know how you list what ROM chips you have in a BBC B, and then how you would run software from them? It's soooo long since I used one. I remember having a Wordwise word processor ROM. Typing *W. (or *WORD ) set the word processor going. *BASIC got you back. *. should get you a catalogue of what's on a disk. 1
srochford Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 Would anyone happen to know how you list what ROM chips you have in a BBC B, and then how you would run software from them? List the ROMs with the *HELP command Get help for each ROM typically by typing *HELP If the ROM is an application (eg Wordwise) then you just start it with *WORDWISE and then just use it to do whatever. Many of the utility ROMS had a fairly limited set of commands (they were probably only 8 or 16 kilobytes - ie smaller than some peoples signature blocks on here!!) 1
HenningWalker Posted May 1, 2010 Posted May 1, 2010 I have done these and they have displayed the ROM in the machine, but they did not display the ones I was looking for. I have my BBC connected to a CNC lathe and until about 6 months ago it worked from a 5 1/4" floppy, This no longer works and now displays the message "Disk Fault 08" and as a result the lathe no longer works. I found two ROM chips inside the system which have written on them "Techsoft CNC Designer" but they cannot be found by the computer. So I need to find the original software and copy it over onto more of a reliable type of memory. The software is made by Lander Microsystems (for the Conect 121 CNC Lathe) does anyone know where I could get hold of this in any format compatible with the BBC? Thank you.
ICT_GUY Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) I remember that you could write some code in basic to read the roms directly, including all the development team members names. Edited May 4, 2010 by ICT_GUY
srochford Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 This no longer works and now displays the message "Disk Fault 08" and as a result the lathe no longer works. This page gives the BBC disc error codes - error 08 means "Error 08 (clock error) during a disc read operation a clock bit was missing." which I think means a fault with the drive rather than the disc
mikkydoos Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 * 10 PRINT "ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN" * 20 GOTO 10 RUN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN ME AND MY PAL USED TO GO TO TANDYS OR CURRYS AND PUT VERY RUDE THINGS ON THE SCREEN
Domino Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 blimey, did it take you 6 and a half years to get that syntax correct? 3
Koldov Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 As a child I remember writing in hundreds of lines of BASIC into my Commodore 64 from a magazine called INPUT. Spending all day on it! Typing RUN with anticipation only for it to SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE 357... Waiting a month for the next magazine showing all the printing errors from the last month.... Typing it all out again... Voila! A square 'ball' bounces across the screen.... 1
synaesthesia Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 I did that with my Atari 800XL. Can't remember the magazine but always the same sort of result. My favourite back then was a bouncy bar type screensaver thing. Never could get the ruddy things to write back to either cassette or disk though!
mikkydoos Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 blimey, did it take you 6 and a half years to get that syntax correct? After I hit submit I noticed the date of this lol. I deleted it too ?? Yes it did - - - Updated - - - As a child I remember writing in hundreds of lines of BASIC into my Commodore 64 from a magazine called INPUT. Spending all day on it! Typing RUN with anticipation only for it to SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE 357... Waiting a month for the next magazine showing all the printing errors from the last month.... Typing it all out again... Voila! A square 'ball' bounces across the screen.... And me on my Amstrad. My mum used to help me. They were always wrong lol
3s-gtech Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 I did that with my Atari 800XL. Can't remember the magazine but always the same sort of result. My favourite back then was a bouncy bar type screensaver thing. Never could get the ruddy things to write back to either cassette or disk though! I wrote a text adventure/game on the C64, was well over 1000 lines which seemed a lot at the age of 12. Thankfully that did save okay (it took several weeks of coding in chunks) but it used both sides of a cassette so took 30 minutes+ to load. Never had a 1541 to try that. Good times anyway!
unixman_again Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 In Australia, there was a radio program about home machines and they would broadcast code for you to record on cassette and load into your C64. Sometimes it even worked!
mikkydoos Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 In Australia, there was a radio program about home machines and they would broadcast code for you to record on cassette and load into your C64. Sometimes it even worked! What a great idea.
Dos_Box Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 In Australia, there was a radio program about home machines and they would broadcast code for you to record on cassette and load into your C64. Sometimes it even worked! There was one here too. It was on in the early 80's and tied in with a BBC show. Micro Live was it? The only problem is, the vast majority of the programs they transmitted were for the BBC Micro and only the rich kids had BBC's. The rest of us had Spectrums, C64's etc. Thinking about it as well, the size of programs transmitted was quite small (and they were usually rubbish) as they had to take up air time to do it and the load times of tapes back them was loooonnnngggg. For all you youngsters out there, would you be prepared to wait half an hour for a game to load?
Koldov Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 For all you youngsters out there, would you be prepared to wait half an hour for a game to load? ...and then for it to crash as soon as you hit start!
GuyJD Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 My mum and dad "donated" my BBC Micro to my primary school when I left in 1989. Still not forgiven them, Family Sunday roasts are still super awkward.
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