6Foot2 Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 We are using HP 1320 and HP 2015 for our Staff/Students for mono printing. ICT has now complained that the printers are too slow and too unreliable and are now forcing my hand to find a network printer which has a higher 'Duty Cycle' and can cope with printing up to 1000 pages per lesson. What printers should I look at to start with to move toward accommodating this request? Thanks.
mpe Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 We are using HP 1320 and HP 2015 for our Staff/Students for mono printing. ICT has now complained that the printers are too slow and too unreliable and are now forcing my hand to find a network printer which has a higher 'Duty Cycle' and can cope with printing up to 1000 pages per lesson. The 17PPM shouldn't be too much trouble. Something like a 4200 TN would be capable of holding the paper. Though you might want something like a 4200 with two additional paper trays, which takes the capacity up to 1,500 sheets (3 reams).
Hightower Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 We are using HP 1320 and HP 2015 for our Staff/Students for mono printing. ICT has now complained that the printers are too slow and too unreliable and are now forcing my hand to find a network printer which has a higher 'Duty Cycle' and can cope with printing up to 1000 pages per lesson. What printers should I look at to start with to move toward accommodating this request? Thanks. In this "current economy crisis" (as theo pathitas puts it) i would more worry about reducing the amounts of prints needed than trying to cope for a rediculous amount of printing.
Haptic Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) We are using HP 1320 and HP 2015 for our Staff/Students for mono printing. ICT has now complained that the printers are too slow and too unreliable and are now forcing my hand to find a network printer which has a higher 'Duty Cycle' and can cope with printing up to 1000 pages per lesson. What printers should I look at to start with to move toward accommodating this request? Thanks. I can recomend one of the below, as we have sold quite a few by request to educational establishments and had no returns , http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/med/256865.jpg Hp LaserJet P3005N Mono Laser Printer £285.00+vat Free Delivery Product Description HP LaserJet P3005n - Printer - B/W - laser Printer Type Workgroup printer - laser - monochrome Printing Speed Up to 33 ppm - B/W - A4 (210 x 297 mm) Power AC 230V Media Type Envelopes, plain paper Max Media Size (Standard) Legal, A4 Max Resolution ( B&W ) 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi Manufacturer Warranty 1 year warranty Monthly Duty Cycle 100000 pages Interface USB, Ethernet 10/100Base-TX Localisation English / United Kingdom Processor Motorola 400 MHz RAM Installed ( Max ) RAM Installed ( Max ) Language Simulation PCL 5E, PostScript 3, PCL 6 Total Media Capacity 600 sheets System Requirements Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition Power AC 230V Dimensions (WxDxH) 42.5 cm x 41 cm x 31 cm Weight 16.2 kg Edited January 29, 2009 by Haptic
rasssp Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 we use 3005n's and 2420n's our sims report person has a 4250tn for student reports. be aware that hp have recently put there toner prices through the roof. 1000 pages per lesson is a lot! what are they printing!
Haptic Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 we use 3005n's and 2420n's our sims report person has a 4250tn for student reports. be aware that hp have recently put there toner prices through the roof. 1000 pages per lesson is a lot! what are they printing! Depends where you buy your ink from fella lol
plexer Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I would agree 1000 pages a lesson is ridiculous. Ben
EvLPhenom Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I would have to agree with the others about that much printing, could you not get them to cut the amount of printing they need, then maybe the printer would not be such a huge issue. We had this at one point and found that the teachers where using the printer as a photocopier and printing all the handouts they needed for each lesson. Once they where threatened with running costs they soon stopped. But if you still need a printer i second the vote for the 4250's they are very good.
contink Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Even I'm balking at 1,000 pages per lesson... That's going to be an average of £30 per lesson just on an average printing cost of 3ppp without taking into account paper and that's just text output.. You're more likely to be expecting £60+ per lesson when you throw in the odd graphic! No, sorry, that's nuts... someone needs a slap upside the head on the specification and a reality check with a clue bat.
rasssp Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 lol, even our cheap prices have gone up, still far cheaper than retail. we have a reliable good compatible supplier we use at the moment we use for mono toners, hp colour ones are extortionate at the minute!
Haptic Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 lol, even our cheap prices have gone up, still far cheaper than retail. we have a reliable good compatible supplier we use at the moment we use for mono toners, hp colour ones are extortionate at the minute! do you mind me asking what is your price on the compatibles and i'll let you know if we can beat it,
Sirbendy Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 another thumbs up for the 3005 and 4250 here. we use 4250s for staff printing (higher speed, high volume), and 3005s for Dept and students (quick enough, damn good).
Brpilot99 Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 We use hp 4005's .... very solid and toner compatables at 126.00 each for the 3 colours and 86.00 for black and white (current price)
Haptic Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 We use hp 4005's .... very solid and toner compatables at 126.00 each for the 3 colours and 86.00 for black and white (current price) not bad pricing , Ours Black £65.00+vat Free Delivery Colours £76.00+vat Each Free Delivery. Let me know if you need more info!
gibbo_ap Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 look at KYOCERA printers their prices are about the same as HP for the printers give or take, the toner is cheaper, and the toner does more miles (last alot longer) we are looking at replacing all our printers with kyoceras soon
Butuz Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Use HP4250N's here in our ICT suites for the last 4 years - theyre nice and fast, very reliable. Everyone is really happy with them - have had no complaints. Toners last approx 20,000 pages which tends to last quite a while. As for printing 1000 pages per lesson - that is bonkers, 30 pupils printing 30 pages every lesson? I think your ICT department may actually need to read their schemes of work with regard to Print Previews etc!!! Also bought Kyocera FS-4000n and whilst that is cheap to buy and run compared to the HP printers - it definatly cannot handle high volumes. Fuser's gone in one already after about a year. HP fusers have lasted 3+ years. Butuz Edited January 29, 2009 by Butuz
6Foot2 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 OK. I apologise for misleading everyone on this one. The 1000 page per lesson is what is currently needed for printing coursework submission. It will not be required to print at that rate all day every school day. But it will be required to out-perform our current printers by some margin on a daily basis. The lack of clarity in my post arose because, as always in these course deadline issues, it was most urgent I had some kind of response within the next hour or so and I wanted to find out what other schools were using in similar circumstances. We have put forward recommendations and now we await the response of senior staff.
ranj Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I would also recommend the HP 3005n as its got a heavy duty cycle and you can get 2 types of toners for it a standard and high capacity. good very good reporting tools via its web admin site for it admins.
localzuk Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Personally, I'd go for the Kyocera FS-4000N due to the low running costs - and that's the main part of a printers lifetime cost. Monthly duty is 250k pages, so it will easily handle the load. eg. per page print costs at 5% are 0.37p per sheet roughly. Compared with 5% at 1.3p per sheet for the HP 3005 Edited January 29, 2009 by localzuk
MatthewL Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Another vote here for the P3005, but I would recomend the P3005x, duplex, network and a second tray. I have installed several of these in our heavy duty areas i.e. finance and they are great pritners.
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