bigtime5001 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Hi guys, Not sure if anyone can help with this but here goes. Currently our security is very tight at the school and its really frustrating the students They have found really the only way they can play games reliably is to run them from a USB key and they all seem to be running .SWF (Flash Files) from them. The problem we have is the IT teacher here teaches flash to the students. So I cant just block .SWF files. I thought maybe I could log in to the drive letter of the USB drive i.e \\nameofpc\d\games but obviously because there is no share it wont work. anyone have any idea`s ?
OutToLunch Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Don't think XP sets up administrative shares on removable devices by default?
EduTech Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 I hate this one, we have the same issue with kids playing gameboy emulators from memory sticks pest's!
JJonas Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Hmm I think you may have problems if you are thinking of deleteing content off their memory sticks. You probably cant do this from a legal point of view unless there is something in your AUP about being able to do it Edited December 15, 2008 by JJonas
OutToLunch Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 For emulators etc which run from .exe, install USBDLM, set a drive letter for sticks then install TrustNoExe - don't think it will help with .swf though..
JJonas Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 from the similar threads link at the bottom of the page http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/4298-stop-kids-running-programs-their-usb-key.html
stratisphere Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Something we're experimenting with is Software restriction with this. Add SWF to the exception list and whitelist their user areas but not their pen drives. Or as we're doing, grab a copy of the game and do a hash restriction.
featured_spectre Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Another way around this is to have all available letters directed to folders on the network drives. IE F:\ = \\Server\%username%\ H:\ = \\Server\%username%\English I:\ = \\Server\%username%\Maths J:\ = \\Server\%username%\Science That would work and give you the chance to have them pointing to useful drives rather than USB drives.
ysangkok Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 if you made swf files only executable from user folders and not pen drives, they could just copy the files over from the pen drive to the user folder. i see the simplest solution in just preventing the machines from automounting usb keys. furthermore, if you try accessing the drives over the network the pupils can just use read-only mediums so you cant delete their stuff. and they could also just plug the ethernet cable out before starting the game.
featured_spectre Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 i still say that setting up the drives to point somewhere so that all letters are taken is the best option OR disabling the USB functionality completely on pupil profiles. Otherwise you would be there for ages trying to sort out which programs and flash files are good to use. If you block flash, programs like maths whizz will not be able to work, so blocking flash is not a good idea!
ChrisH Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Does using an SRP work on .swf ? I remember trying it with MP3s and even if you add it as an executable type it just ignored it unless its an exe, DLL, script etc.
alan-d Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Just an idea and if it's viable someone could cobble up a script. If Flash is being taught then each swf file should have a corresponding flv file. Could a script check that an flv file of the same name is present, if so allow the swf if not then block? You may also have to check modified dates between the two files within a set parameter. Is it possible?
featured_spectre Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 doing that would be pretty hard to impliment as you would have to make sure that there was a corresponding FLV file, plus the children could just make a file and name it example.flv and have a game called example.swf and you would be screwed
DrPerceptron Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 doing that would be pretty hard to impliment as you would have to make sure that there was a corresponding FLV file, plus the children could just make a file and name it example.flv and have a game called example.swf and you would be screwed They may not twig None of the kids here have twigged yet that putting 'IT_' before all their work allows them to save any format they like.
mac_shinobi Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 They may not twig None of the kids here have twigged yet that putting 'IT_' before all their work allows them to save any format they like. If any of them from either schools read or go on edugeek - they do now lol and the words spread like wild fire mean anything ? Not trying to start a flame war just pointing out the obvious
Gatt Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 I've tried, and subsequently failed, to use SRP to restrict .SWF files from being executed... Bg problem with .SWF files, again due to Flash being on the curriculum
featured_spectre Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 perhaps if you restrict it to load off the server from an area that is read only and not write? that way the teacher gets them to save there work in 1 place and can edit there work without a problem, and then they can only open work they or the teacher has done?
crc-ict Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 Call me old fashioned, but isn't it the teachers' job to maintain discipline and stop pupils from doing things they're not supposed to do in lessons? Otherwise, we'll be in danger of people asking us to work out how to disable their fists to stop them fighting, or their mouths so they can't eat in class!
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now