mikeymike Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 firstly i work in a private special need school so the boys can over-react .i have been asked by someone on the management to block miniclip as he feels it is used too much by some boys. I mentioned the fact that i could be blocking stuff all day if sites like this needed to go. I also mentioned that i believe we should be educating our boys on using the internet appropriately and maybe allowing them to use game sites as a carrot at the end of the lesson for say 10 mins or so. Basically he does not want to challenge boys on not using the sites when work should be done instead cause of the over-reaction. just wondering what your thoughts are and if you allow game sites to be played???
mattx Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Nothing wrong with mini clip - one of the most popular sites with the boys at our school.....
witch Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 I think it depends on the level of over-reaction. If the children do tend to overreact (and I've seen special needs children here so I know how they can be) then I probably would ban it - to be honest whilst it is a site children love, I think you have special circumstances
PaulBM Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 We only allow games in one room outside of lesson times. We spend a fair amount of time banning the endless stream of games sites too.
mikeymike Posted October 14, 2008 Author Posted October 14, 2008 We only allow games in one room outside of lesson times. We spend a fair amount of time banning the endless stream of games sites too. and that was one of my points as im the only technician here i would be doing that all day
Sirbendy Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 some of the miniclip content is perhaps a little close to the line, I would say...we've banned it here. TBH, kids have stopped attempting games sites now. Suits me. The little sods do try and embed the flash in their docs though, or on the shared area, or their user areas...
sidewinder Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Banned by LEA here, as is anything that even borders on being interesting or fun
Whyyoublockmyinternets Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 I use the rule of thumb between 8:30 and 2:40 - does the site have any educational purpose or value? If so, it's fine (some of the BBC stuff for example) It not, straight block.
mikeymike Posted October 14, 2008 Author Posted October 14, 2008 Banned by LEA here, as is anything that even borders on being interesting or fun but to those of you that do filter these particular sites how do you do it. do you literally go through them one by one??
Whyyoublockmyinternets Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 That's one way Mike, or you would need a proper content filter. We are looking at Bloxx here at the minute but for a lot of people that's going to be very expensive...
Sirbendy Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 we use Bloxx, and Policycentral Enterprise as our "eyes and ears", and NetSupport to monitor and "local ban" on a class by class basis. Every week, the NetSupport URL lists get imported into Bloxx.
bossman Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 We only allow our students access to one games website which some of the teachers hate whilst others love (cos they can then leave the little tykes to play on games while they themselves trawl the internet looking for cheap this and that) but we use our own filter system IPCop which has been very good to date and uptime is approx a year.
Whyyoublockmyinternets Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 We are using PCE as well Sirbendy, looking forward to having something like Bloxx in. The amount of disruption caused by flash games and the like is unreal!
mikeymike Posted October 14, 2008 Author Posted October 14, 2008 We are using PCE as well Sirbendy, looking forward to having something like Bloxx in. The amount of disruption caused by flash games and the like is unreal! so using software like bloxx then would that automatically pick up game site names and filter straight away or would you still need to filter one by one??
Whyyoublockmyinternets Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 so using software like bloxx then would that automatically pick up game site names and filter straight away or would you still need to filter one by one?? Yes, the appliance sit's as a proxy on your network, linked it your OS of choice (AD for Winderz, LDAP for everything else) and then allows/denies access to sites based on a load of pre-set catagories. So, games set to "Off", and anything remotely game related get's blocked. They do so by reading meta tags, headers, and picking up on words in the pages of the site requested.
tomscaper Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 We block this here the line is that "it is not educational" although i cant say i have ever seen anything on it that is that bad, i guess some games could be though as violent.
tom_newton Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 I think most of our edu clients block online gaming, at least during "core hours". Our online games list uses content analysis as well as a "large list o games sites" to detect flash & java games. Certainly you shouldn't be spending all day chasing such sites any more than you should anything else you'd block. If you want to try out our filter it is easily done on VMWare for a subset of users. Just drop me a line.
kesomir Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Alternatively, you may find it easier to whitelist the internet. "It's the only way to be sure" Then add in all the exceptions for content you want to allow. Can prob be done by monitoring the urls for a term to build a list of sites to allow, then unblock as requested.
mikeymike Posted October 17, 2008 Author Posted October 17, 2008 Alternatively, you may find it easier to whitelist the internet. "It's the only way to be sure" Then add in all the exceptions for content you want to allow. Can prob be done by monitoring the urls for a term to build a list of sites to allow, then unblock as requested. basically a intranet then
Joedetic Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 My policy is that if I'm walking around...and I see something that is streaming media...I note the URL and block it. We don't have enough bandwidth to let every tom dick and harry stream nonsense. I think I'll be getting the vote for most unpopular tech when more users find out that I blocked the premiumtv.co.uk domain. NO FOOTBALL STREAMS FOR ANYONE. I feel bad about it so I may allow it back lol.
BaccyNet Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 If its to do with hacking/cracking or the suchlike its instantly blocked, otherwise its more of a see what a few teachers think and go from there. We use WebMarshal for our content filtering. Does a decent enough job although its not the greatest in the world.
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