HM Queen Elizabeth II

[elsiegee40]

I do remember in the 70's growing up that we had one and two shilling coins with former kings heads on as legal currency (5p and 10p pieces) and I'm sure there was another (sixpence piece possibly) you could use.

 

Yes sixpences were valid post decimalisation and worth 2.5 new pence. Not sure whether they were scrapped before or at the same time as the half pence coin.

[Dos_Box]

I do recall them never being given in change, but you used to find them on the street and could spend them. Pretty sure they were all gone by the time the half pence peice was withdrawn.

Ah, here we go - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixpence_(British_coin) - and withdrawn in 1980, the half pence in 1984.

I thought the sixpence went before that then, perhaps they just fell out of common usage before.

[6Foot2]

Yes sixpences were valid post decimalisation and worth 2.5 new pence. Not sure whether they were scrapped before or at the same time as the half pence coin.

 

Sixpence was no longer legal tender on 30^th of June 1980.

 

Link 1: Sixpence (British coin) - Wikipedia

 

Half pence coin no longer legal tender in December 1984.

 

Link 2: Halfpenny (British decimal coin) - Wikipedia

Edited September 9, 2022 by 6Foot2
Correct a typo. :(

[Norphy]

I used to make a point of collecting shillings and florins when I found them in my change when I was younger. That was until they shrunk the 5p and 10p coins, anyway.

[6Foot2]

Link: Royal Mail and rail workers cancel strikes after the Queen’s death | Business | The Guardian

[southhamster]

Lovely anecdote here about the Queen's gentle sense of humour:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/american-hiker-queen-elizabeth-bodyguard-dick-b2163426.html

[nicholab]

Lovely anecdote here about the Queen's gentle sense of humour:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/american-hiker-queen-elizabeth-bodyguard-dick-b2163426.html

 

Does seem strange that the BBC stop broadcast comedy when the Queen liked the odd joke. Also comedy helps us get through stuff like this.

[elsiegee40]

Does seem strange that the BBC stop broadcast comedy when the Queen liked the odd joke. Also comedy helps us get through stuff like this.

 

It is less than 24 hours since her death was announced. For the moment the main channels are all (not just the BBC) broadcasting safe programming that aren’t going to offend anyone.

 

There are already signs of the strict formality being relaxed a little with things like sporting events have been told they can continue during the mourning period.

 

You need just a little more tolerance to allow broadcasters, etc to work things out at a pace that’s right for most people

[ZeroHour]

Does seem strange that the BBC stop broadcast comedy when the Queen liked the odd joke. Also comedy helps us get through stuff like this.

I have heard that there had been an understanding on timings and things should be more relaxed on Saturday.

[elsiegee40]

Kenyan TV apparently

 

https://twitter.com/realesttheorist/status/1568098225273585664?s=21&t=L5-bje0H1QvmFlVy29KoiA

[FN-GM]

It’s business as usual in Australia. Very few things to mark the death. The Sydney opera house looked superb though. A great touch.

 

Out of interest does anyone know what happens to all of our money? And stamps I guess.

 

Lots of British Police Uniforms have ER on them. I wonder if they will change and how quickly.

Edited September 10, 2022 by FN-GM

[6Foot2]

...Lots of British Police Uniforms have ER on them. I wonder if they will change and how quickly.

 

Link: What does ER stand for? The meaning of the Queen's royal cypher explained and what it will be for King Charles

 

...What does ER stand for?

 

ER, or EIIR, is the Queen’s royal cypher. The ER stands for Elizabeth Regina, “Regina” meaning queen in Latin.

 

The II is to mark that she was Elizabeth II. However, in Scotland the II is not used, as Scotland did not recognise Elizabeth I, instead being ruled by Mary Queen of Scots.

 

The Queen’s EIIR features on traditional police helmets and postboxes.

 

What will King Charles’s cypher be?

 

Charles will use the cypher CIIIR, standing for Charles III Rex. “Rex” means king in Latin.

 

The new King has confirmed he will rule as Charles III. He had the choice to instead go by one of his middle names, Philip, Arthur or George.

 

While English queens use the St Edward’s crown, or a variant of it, on their cypher, kings traditionally use the more rounded Tudor crown.

 

What will happen to coins and banknotes?

 

Coins featuring the new King will show him facing to the left, while Elizabeth II’s effigy faces to the right.

 

It is a tradition from the 17th century to alternate the way successive monarchs are facing.

 

New coins and notes will need to be designed and minted or printed, but are not likely to appear in general circulation for some time.

 

The Royal Mint advisory committee needs to send recommendations for new coins to the Chancellor and obtain royal approval.

 

Designs are then chosen and the final choices approved by the Chancellor and then the King.

 

The Queen’s coins did not appear until 1953 – the year after her accession – and Elizabeth II’s coins are expected to stay in use until they are gradually replaced.

 

What will happen to stamps?

 

The new King will at some stage feature on British stamps, and others around the Commonwealth.

 

He may have already sat for such sculptures or portraits, and he will again have to approve the designs...

 

What the cypher of Charles III may look like:

 

[nicholab]

Someone sabotage the Mid Antrim 150 course as it was going ahead. The organisation had very little time to make a decision Queen death posted at 18:30 qualifying next day. Edited September 10, 2022 by nicholab

[hardtailstar]

I'm not a royalist and in previous jobs switched shifts with those that wanted to watch what ever royal thing that was on TV.

 

I found myself almost in tears when the announcement was made on TV.

[6Foot2]

Link: Bank holiday announced for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II’s State Funeral on Monday 19 September - GOV.UK

 

 

Monday 19 September, the date of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II’s State Funeral, will be a national bank holiday.

 

This will allow individuals, businesses and other organisations to pay their respects to Her Majesty and commemorate Her reign, while marking the final day of the period of national mourning.

 

This bank holiday will operate in the same way as other bank holidays, and there is no statutory entitlement to time off. Employers may include bank holidays as part of a worker’s leave entitlement.

 

The bank holiday will take place across the United Kingdom.

 

More information

 

The bank holiday will be a unique national moment, and we would encourage employers to respond sensitively to requests from workers who wish to take time off.

 

Does this bank holiday mean individuals can have the day off work?

 

This is a matter for discussion between individuals and their employer. There is no statutory entitlement to time off for bank holidays, but employers may include bank holidays as part of a worker’s leave entitlement.

 

The government cannot interfere in existing contractual arrangements between employers and workers. However, we would expect that many workers will be able to take the day off on the bank holiday. We also expect employers to respond sensitively to requests from workers who wish to take the day of the funeral off work.

 

Some employment contracts ask individuals to work some Saturdays/bank holidays. Can these individuals take this bank holiday off work?

This is a matter for discussion between individuals and their employer.

 

If an individual will have to work on the day of the funeral – can they take an additional day’s holiday another day?

 

This is a matter for discussion between you and your employer.

 

If an individual will have work on the day of the funeral – will they be paid extra?

 

This is a matter for discussion between you and your employer. There are no statutory rules regarding extra pay on bank holidays.

 

If an individual has annual leave booked for the day of the funeral – will they be able to reclaim this leave?

 

This is a matter for discussion between you and your employer.

 

Will this bank holiday apply everywhere in the UK?

 

Yes, this bank holiday will apply in all parts of the UK.

 

Is this an official bank holiday, or does it have a special status?

 

This bank holiday is official and applies in the same way as all others.

 

Was King George VI’s funeral a National Holiday?

 

No, King George VI’s funeral was not a bank holiday, but the government wants to help give as many people as possible the opportunity on the day of the State Funeral to mark Her Majesty’s passing and commemorate Her reign.

 

Will there be a bank holiday for the Coronation?

 

No decision has yet been made. A decision will be made nearer the time.

 

Will the bank holiday to mark Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral be an annual holiday?

 

There are currently no plans for an annual holiday.

 

Will schools be closed on the day of the bank holiday?

 

Yes, schools will be closed, we are not asking them to remain open on the day of the bank holiday.

[admars]

cool, a day "off" to catch up on September

[DrBeaker]

I'm not a royalist and in previous jobs switched shifts with those that wanted to watch what ever royal thing that was on TV.

 

I found myself almost in tears when the announcement was made on TV.

In one job did the same with the World cup/Euro etc. Some staff wanted to watch it. I didn't. So we swapped shifts etc and I got to leave early one of the days.

[titch]

@nicholab and anyone else who is inclined to go away from the tone of this thread please take note that this is a huge change. Few people in this country have ever known anyone other than Queen Elizabeth II as monarch of this country. The status quo has been rocked at an already difficult time for this country and even those with no particular fondness for the monarchy are recognising that. This is not the right place to air gripes; there are are other social media platforms available.

 

This thread will continue in a respectful way.

 

Have to ask....

 

Whilst I understand this thread is designed for good will and quite rightly be kept that way, and I by no means want to derail it as it is always important to respect others opinions, but is there no space for alternative opinion on forum? Must we go to other media platforms for that?

[elsiegee40]

Have to ask....

 

Whilst I understand this thread is designed for good will and quite rightly be kept that way, and I by no means want to derail it as it is always important to respect others opinions, but is there no space for alternative opinion on forum? Must we go to other media platforms for that?

Basically no. Any discussion immediately becomes “political forum” territory. So if you want to contribute something from a respectful, or even respectfully humorous, perspective then go ahead.

 

Anything else will be removed. This thread will only remain open on this basis.

 

As already said, there are other platforms available for discussing the rights and wrongs of the coverage/monarchy/etc.

[titch]

Thanks. I will respectfully disagree and bow out at this point.

 

If this thread is purely good will and rightly no politic swallowed I think mods should review some of the comments above that go past mourning her death and have extended their comments to proactively encouraging the monarchy.

 

I wish her family well.

[mikeprice]

She has left Balmoral for the last time

 

Hearse and accompanying convoy heading for Edinburgh - 6 hour trip

[triggmiester]

Bond will now be 'On His Majesty's Secret Service'

[HarryMonkey]

It seems very weird referring to "The King" rather than to "Prince Charles".

[6Foot2]

It seems very weird referring to "The King" rather than to "Prince Charles".

 

I expect the change from Princess Elizabeth to Queen Elizabeth II felt similar in 1952.

[clareq]

A newscaster got very confused yesterday, "The Prince of Wales, sorry the King, no the Prince of Wales, Prince William spoke to the First Minister for Wales today" It will take a while for the new titles to become normal.