mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) hi guys i have been asked if we can turn the internet off in the evenings and at wk/ends as some of our boys have been coming down from the residential units without permission and using the internet. instead of literally pulling the cable out is there a better way of doing this?? using server 2003 by the way Edited May 6, 2008 by mikeymike
webman Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Do you have a proxy server that all workstations must use to access the internet?
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 Do you have a proxy server that all workstations must use to access the internet? yes mate
elsiegee40 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Can you put a simple timer on the Power Supply to the Router? No power = no internet This sort of thing: QVS Electrical Supplies :: Timer Switches :: 24 Hour Plug-In Timer
Domino Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Can you put a simple timer on the Power Supply to the Router? No power = no internet This sort of thing: QVS Electrical Supplies :: Timer Switches :: 24 Hour Plug-In Timer would work, however networking equipment is like old people - put it off for the night and a few don't get back up.... What proxy are you using, most have the feature to allow or deny by time built in
pallen Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 If they dont have permision, should they be using the network at all? You could just put time restrictions on their accounts so they cant logon.
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 would work, however networking equipment is like old people - put it off for the night and a few don't get back up.... What proxy are you using, most have the feature to allow or deny by time built in sorry bit knew to this how do i find what proxy im using??
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 If you try to access an unsuitable website is there a 'blocked' page which comes up? This might tell you what proxy you're using.
everton4europe Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Within active directory users and computers you are able to set the logon times of users. So at evenings and weekends they will not be able to access the system.
elsiegee40 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Within active directory users and computers you are able to set the logon times of users. So at evenings and weekends they will not be able to access the system. Setting logon hours in AD prevents logging in outside hours, but does not force a logoff - so anyone logged in would be able to carry on using their logon and hence the internet unless you set Group Policy to force logoff when logon hours expire. We do this for teachers and pupils, but not Office Staff Group Policy: Computer Settings > Windows settings > Security Settings > Local Policies > Security Options Enable " Network: Force logoff when logon hours expire"
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 Within active directory users and computers you are able to set the logon times of users. So at evenings and weekends they will not be able to access the system. im looking at where you mean and seeing the account properties but i cannot see anything aiming towards logging on at certain times??
elsiegee40 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 im looking at where you mean and seeing the account properties but i cannot see anything aiming towards logging on at certain times?? It's on the Account Tab of user properties - there's a Logon Hours button You can select a group of pupils and do them all in one go.
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 More information can be found here. HOW TO: Limit User Logon Time in a Domain in Windows Server 2003
antoeknee Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 There is a fairly cheap (less that £1/client, well thats what we pay) program 'BrowseControl' which amongst other things allows you to schedule internet access. If you structure the groups correctly you can do this for individual groups of machines or all at once.
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 It's on the Account Tab of user properties - there's a Logon Hours button You can select a group of pupils and do them all in one go. excellent ye that seems to of worked on 1 account but how will i select more than 1 shall i simply highlight more names then do properties and select the time??
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 excellent ye that seems to of worked on 1 account but how will i select more than 1 shall i simply highlight more names then do properties and select the time?? Yes. That should do it.
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 brilliant thank you everyone for your replies much appreciated.
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 brilliant thank you everyone for your replies much appreciated. As a question for everyone, what clock is used to determine what time it is when login restrictions are used? Is it the clock on the client machines or the clock on the server or something else altogether?
elsiegee40 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 excellent ye that seems to of worked on 1 account but how will i select more than 1 shall i simply highlight more names then do properties and select the time?? It's the standard: Click on the first one, hold down the Shift key, click on the last one, right click and choose properties.
elsiegee40 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 As a question for everyone, what clock is used to determine what time it is when login restrictions are used? Is it the clock on the client machines or the clock on the server or something else altogether? I imagine it's the server clock, but I could be wrong. Hopefully the clocks aren't that far out in any case.
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 I imagine it's the server clock, but I could be wrong. Hopefully the clocks aren't that far out in any case. What I was thinking is that mikeymike should make sure that users cannot change the system time on the client machines.
strawberry Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 What I was thinking is that mikeymike should make sure that users cannot change the system time on the client machines. If they did it by more than 5 minutes they'd soon drop off the domain as the kerberos ticket would no longer be valid.
jmcdermott Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 You could just disable your dhcp server, this would stop them unless they know what range you use. You could do this by setting a net stop/ net start command in the windows tasks on the server.
mikeymike Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) we have it so students cannot go in and adjust the time/date anyway. but another question just thought of is what if a student has left his account on and then comes back to it after the expired time will it still work? Edited May 6, 2008 by mikeymike
Edu-IT Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 we have it so students cannot go in and adjust the time/date anyway. but another question just thought of is what if a student has left his account on and then comes back to it after the expired time will it still work? I would assume that by forcing logoff the user will have no alternative but to log off when they returned.
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