Logon Times/Speed

[free4440273]

especially when i consider ranger to be carp!

[Gatt]

Ranger?

[free4440273]

eh??

[Ric_]

woops: pointed it at the wrong person.

[phillipmillward]

There is a known problem with Folder Redirection on Windows Server 2003 with XP clients

 

Link to Microsoft KB Article

 

I will attch the 2 patch files that microsoft provide. One is for the server and the other is for the workstations.

 

I have also included a video that someone made about the difference it made to his logon time.

 

Hope this helps

Phil

[malcolm_kapadia]

Windows 2000 servers (3 domain servers and 6 other servers)

Windows XP SP1 clients

P4 2.4, 2.8, 3.0, 3.2GHz mixture

512MB ram

 

Mandatory profiles (about 1mb in size)

 

logon speed from hitting enter to full usable desktop = about 5-10 seconds depending on PC.

 

Most notieable speed advantage on windows XP if you are updated comes from disabling the WebClient service.

 

Mal

[eejit]

Thanks for the info - what does the webclient service actually do Mal?

[Guest frankybaloney]

Hi

 

I think your scripting structure is brilliant!

 

I have been trying to implement but I come across the following problems:

 

1. The computer hangs on "Running Logoff Scripts..." when logging off

2. The Delprof.exe program is not asking for a prompt even after I put the switch /y into the script.

 

The script I am using is:

 

NET USE K: \\homer\batch\netlogon

NET USE W: \\homer\batch\Desktop

k:\Delprof.exe /y /q

rd /s /q "c:\documents and settings\Default User"

xcopy /i /y /h /e w:\Profiles\*.* "c:\documents and settings\Default User"

net use /delete * /y

 

Any ideas?

[Quackers]

You should only need the /q switch.

[Guest frankybaloney]

Cheers... ill keep trying...

 

Any ideas as to why it would hang on "running logoff scripts"?

[Quackers]

Your script should be used as a startup script not a logoff script. Maybe thats why its hanging.

[Guest frankybaloney]

It is being used as a logon script...

 

Every machine I put into the OU now hangs when logging off. Very Bizzare indeed.

 

I have removed all logoff scripts and still....hmmm....

[GoldenWonder]

@Quackers

 

Thanks very much - should save some time... D

Just as an aside to this post - where did you get the Res.exe from to change the screen resolution on boot?

 

I've been looking for a simple scripting way to do this and so far have found the best way would be to write my own!

[Geoff]

Open Source beat you to it.

 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/qres/

[GoldenWonder]

That Qres looks interesting - whats the res.exe? Ideally this could be used with parameters in a startup script.

[Guest frankybaloney]

Ok

 

Sorted out the log off problem

 

Now im trying to stop the personalised settings box from appearing.

 

Is it possible for you to send me the profile that you are using?

 

Cheers

[tosca925]

Now i'm trying to stop the personalised settings box from appearing

 

Just out of interest how has this been done?

[Guest frankybaloney]

Just out of interest how has this been done?

 

Its not, I am still trying to find out how to do it...

[srochford]

You won't get rid of the "applying personal settings" box - it's supposed to be there but it shouldn't be there for long.

 

If you google for "applying personal settings" slow then you'll find lots of people with the same problem and various ways to try and fix it - DNS can be a cause here.

 

One thing you can do is to turn on logging - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833 gives details of how to do this. You will then get a text file %Systemroot%\Debug\UserMode\Userenv.log which contains details of what's going on. it's not the easiest file to understand but what you're looking for is whether there's a long gap between entries - this indicates something which is taking a long time that you can try and fix.

 

http://www.sysprosoft.com/policyreporter.shtml is worth downloading (free!) - it will make more sense of the userenv.log file

 

One final note - if you turn up userenv debug logging (as in the KB article) then turn it down again when you're done - the process of creating the verbose log will itself slow down logon.

[phillipmillward]

What did you do to fix your logoff script problem, I cant stop using roaming profiles as you need roaming profiles when using offline files. Dont you??

 

Thanks

 

Phil

[Ste_Harve]

Quackers - I've got a question for you. How do you copy the profile to the server? Do you just use copy and paste or the profiles page of the control panel bit?

[Quackers]

Quackers - I've got a question for you. How do you copy the profile to the server? Do you just use copy and paste or the profiles page of the control panel bit?

 

I use the Profile Page in the system control to copy to a local folder, and set Everyone on the security part. Then i just copy and paste to the server.

[drewp]

Hi Guys, What a thread!

 

I have been trying to get better logon speeds, as they were about 40-50 seconds. The 899409 patch brought them down to about 30 seconds, according to the UserEnvDebug log.

 

I also noticed in the UserEnvDebug log that the logon process was pausing for about 20 seconds when the Internet Explorer Branding was happening. I did alot of googling and found some stuff out about the same thing happening in Terminal Server environments. It Turns out that there is a bug with the IE7 Branding dll which causes the problem. Replacing the IE7 branding dll to a IE6 version dll (iedkcs32.dll version 16.0.3790.1830) solves the problem.

 

When I replaced the dll my login times recorded in UserEnvDebug logs were 8 seconds (I'm using a mandatory user profiles with GPO's) Not sure at this point if there are any problems with using the IE6 Branding dll, but applying any hotfixes or service packs will replace the dll.

 

Has anyone else spotted this?

[bishopsgarthstockton]

i did a search for this .dll file and its not on xp, but on the server. is this the same for you?

[drewp]

You should see iedkcs32.dll version 17.00.6000.16512 in %windir%\system32 and %windir%\system32\dllcache on XP Pro SP2 if IE7 is installed. You may have to turn off hide file extensions for known file types and show hidden files and folders to find both of them.

 

I had to rename the %windir%\system32\dllcache\iedkcs.dll other wise if you replace the %windir%\system32\iedkcs.dll with version 6.00.3790.1830 it will be replaced with the later version from the dllcache.

 

It is the version 17.00.6000.16512 which slows down the Internet Explorer branding. I found the 6.00.3790.1830 on one of my 2003 servers which does not (luckily) have IE7 on it.

 

Here is a link to the forum that i found all this stuff about the IE7 branding dll causing the problem. The credit is really down to them http://support.citrix.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=75&threadID=83027&start=0&tstart=0